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100 foot cabinet shop #3: Dust collection!? We don't need no steenkin' dust collection!

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Blog entry by Madmark2 posted 03-01-2017 02:50 AM 1889 reads 0 times favorited 5 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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Was cleaning out the saw and was impressed with how much dust accumulated even with a 4” line. The dust collector was not clogged but the saw dust simply doesn’t self cascade into the vac hole.

So I had a thought that since the saw cabinet was filling anyway (and it holds a lot of dust), that perhaps I was wasting time/energy cycling the DC for every little saw cut. So I now don’t bother turning on the DC for the saw until I’m doing a cleanout.

Discuss!

M



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Andybb

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#1 posted 03-01-2017 03:30 AM

I have the same saw and am always “impressed” with how much is in the cabinet when I clean it out. I assumed it was because my DC is a shop vac system.. But, my cyclone bucket fills up also so my belief is that a lot of the particles are being sucked up. Also, I think it greatly reduces the amount of particulate in the air that the overhead filter doesn’t get. (since I don’t use the mask like I should) Even with the DC on if I cut a slice or two of something like padauk or purple heart the overhead filter still turns red or purple. So, I’m still suggesting you turn on the DC. Plus, with your face (lungs) being closer to table level I’d most definitely still use it. Also I’d cover up the gap for the “angle adjustment hole” with tape or upholstery foam. There’s always a pile of dust on the floor. If you’re in that chair that’s very close to your face.

-- Andybb

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Bill_Steele

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#2 posted 03-01-2017 10:13 PM

That’s an interesting idea. It might work for the saw but probably not other tools (e.g. thickness planer).

What is your dust collection/ducting setup? Do you have a 100 foot duct run to the tool? Perhaps there is insufficient airflow at the tool?

I have an Oneida Mini-Gorilla (~500 CFM). I have no ducting—I just move the 10’ hose from one tool to the next. I have an old Jet contractor saw and I connect my dust collector hose to the bottom of the saw (4”port). I don’t have any dust in the DC hose, but there is some left in the saw and on the saw top after making a cut. My saw is not very well sealed, so I figure that may contribute to the poor dust collection. I think Andy pointed this out in the post above.

I have several of those flat sheet magnets (businesses sometimes give them out with their company name and phone number) that I use to seal openings around controls and I made a custom cardboard cover (held in place with magnets) for the back of the saw. These help but I sorta think that I need a bigger DC that has more CFM.

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Madmark2

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#3 posted 03-02-2017 05:23 PM

The planer has no internal dust chamber like the saw has. My runs are short and the DC has a 6” intake. Its not lack of suction, it’s the fact that the pile of sawdust doesn’t enter the vac port without encouragement.

M

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#4 posted 03-02-2017 05:36 PM

It would still keep the air cleaner I’d think.

-- Shooting down the walls of heartache. Bang bang. I am. The warrior.

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#5 posted 10-20-2017 02:14 AM

I dont even connect the dust extractor to my 12” saw cabinet.
(Advantages of having a cabinet saw), at the end of the day I just empty the containers I have inside. Everyting else is a must!...except my chain saw!

-- Regards Robert

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