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Score! #2: Mexican Fan Palm Trunk Chunks

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Blog entry by Mark Wilson posted 12-02-2015 11:18 PM 899 reads 0 times favorited 18 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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The Muse: Kevin Mcneally http://www.turnedwood.com/bowls.html

These two Mexican Fan Palms have graced my neighborhood’s sunsets, and moonscapes for decades. The neighbor decided she didn’t want them anymore. they were cut down today. I brought home a handful of foot-and-a-half long, ten- to -twelve-inch diameter chunks, and one about three-and-a-half feet long. Some of you really smart Buddies, I’m sure, can tell me what I need to do to use this material, and make Things as beautiful of it as Kevin has managed. He uses commercially-processed, kiln-dried Black Palm boards. I’ve emailed him, asking for suggestions, or, at least ideas/links to someone who can help. Now, my Beloved Buddies, I’m asking you for help. And, I know I’ll get it. Thanks.

-- Mark



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lew

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#1 posted 12-02-2015 11:33 PM

All I can do is stare at the vessel with my mouth hanging open.

-- Lew- Time traveler. Purveyor of the Universe's finest custom rolling pins.

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#2 posted 12-03-2015 12:14 AM

I thought that looked like black palm. I have some veneer …... very pricy stuff.
I hope it works for you. Keep us posted.

-- Paul M ..............If God wanted us to have fiberglass boats he would have given us fibreglass trees. http://thecanadianschooloffrenchmarquetry.com/

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#3 posted 12-03-2015 01:27 AM

You gonna turn ‘em green? or wait till they dry? Wonder if palm will dry faster because of the strands in the grain?

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#4 posted 12-03-2015 01:36 AM

Joe, I need to know how to stabilize it. It’ll dry and shrink something awful. There’s no turning this stuff green. It’s like trying to cut a soggy dish rag. I’ve tried it.

I need to harden it somehow. Mebees, get something like boards out of it. I have no idea how. Impregnate it with creosote, or Armorseal?

-- Mark

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#5 posted 12-03-2015 02:04 AM

What ever you do, don’t waste that stuff. It has too many possible beauties in them. Good luck with it.

-- Dave, Downers Grove, Il. -------- When you run out of ideas, start building your dreams.

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#6 posted 12-03-2015 02:04 AM

Yeeah, I didn’t think it would turn very well green. I remember from living in FloriDUH that it was like shredded wheat inside.

Dont really have any ideas on making it more stable.

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#7 posted 12-03-2015 02:14 AM

“Shredded Wheat”. That’s the term I was looking for. Very good description, Joe. I just know there’s a way to do it. And, Kevin, the man of the Bowl, told me his Black Palm was air dried, and gave me some suggestions for cutting it.

-- Mark

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#8 posted 12-03-2015 02:52 AM

I have a chunk of a fan palm (different kind, with multiple trunks) that we cut down a year ago. It’s just been sitting around drying in the Arizona desert air. I may go out and have a look at it tomorrow.
I guess If it is way too porous it could be saturated with S1 sealer. That would not be cheap but it certainly would stabilize it.

-- Paul M ..............If God wanted us to have fiberglass boats he would have given us fibreglass trees. http://thecanadianschooloffrenchmarquetry.com/

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Mark Wilson

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#9 posted 12-03-2015 04:47 AM

How expensive is it, Paul? And how does one go about saturating the wood with it? I just looked. That isn’t cheap. Who’s it made by? Chanel? The home of the $400-an-ounce perfume? How about Anchorseal. Or, you know, they used to soak railroad ties and wooden power poles in Creosote.

-- Mark

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#10 posted 12-03-2015 10:43 AM

Can’t help at all Mark but have you thought of using the microwave to dry it out? Experiment with a small cutoff.

-- Bob C, Australia. I love sharing as long as it is not my tools

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#11 posted 12-03-2015 11:48 AM

I have heard that creosol is unhealthy to work with and I can imagine even more so when turning something saturated with it.

-- Mike, an American living in Norway.

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#12 posted 12-03-2015 01:40 PM

If creosote is unhealthy, then I should be dead because my Dad used to dip my foot in it when I stepped on a nail to prevent infection and that was at least 70 yrs ago. I can’t imagine it would be fun to work with as it retains its smell and doesn’t dry to a hard finish.

-- Kepy

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#13 posted 12-03-2015 02:05 PM

Creosote may preserve it Mark but I don’t think it would do much to harden it.
If you want it stable and hard enough to turn (assuming it is not, I dont know the wood at all) S1, being an epoxy, would be my best guess. It is about as thin as diesel and will wick up into a porous material and harden it. I have used it on rotten (non structural) boat parts that would have been too expensive to repair otherwise and it performed amazingly.

-- Paul M ..............If God wanted us to have fiberglass boats he would have given us fibreglass trees. http://thecanadianschooloffrenchmarquetry.com/

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#14 posted 12-03-2015 09:47 PM

Amazing result Mark

-- Grumpy - "Always look on the bright side of life"- Monty Python

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#15 posted 12-03-2015 10:51 PM

Paul, is S1 sold at the retail level? Is there some equivalent to it by another, less boatbuider specialty moniker? Like, for instance, that CA that costs $7.95 down at Rockler, is the same as the Superglue I buy two bottles of at HD for about $5? You know what I mean. Is there a deck sealer, or some such thing, that’s really the same thing as S1, and easier and cheaper, to come by?

-- Mark

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