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Blog entry by LittleBlackDuck posted 07-15-2018 11:45 PM 611 reads 0 times favorited 12 comments Add to Favorites Watch

Boys and Girls, in general (and MY friiend),

To all my sceptic friends (both of you…, [-1]), I finally bought a case of Domino tenons… (they all know I have been avoiding the Festool Domino “biscuit joiner” for well over 10+ years),

This was on special ($307 reduced to $149 [offer current only at time of posting]) so I couldn’t avoid the bargain… I can now use my laser to engrave some dots on the loose tenons and make REAL DOMINO game pieces.

OK. I might have to surrender to my dark side and buy a Domino to use up the left over biscuits… Festool are not renown for discounting… so I might have to wait till the upcoming Wood Show in Melbourne (circa September 2018) to get a 10% discount before I can go to town “side routing” into lay about timber…

PS. Actually this is an unpaid Festool spruik to any Aussies (use the link above) that have a DOMINO and need the full set of cutters and a top up of tennons… (the cutters alone are worth around $300… so the tenons would be “free” and at half the price it’s nearly better than buying the missus (or that hidden mistress) some sexy lingerie…

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD



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Dutchy

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#1 posted 07-16-2018 12:14 AM

That is cheap, and could be payed with the left over from the cheap crossing table, isn,t it?

-- https://dutchypatterns.com/

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LittleBlackDuck

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#2 posted 07-16-2018 01:01 AM

It’s the $1,700 for that blasted Domino (with any hopeful discount) that I am dreading… Festool stuff is normally not cost friendly.

That’s why I posted this APB for the Aussie guys to save a shekel or two…

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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crowie

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#3 posted 07-16-2018 01:18 AM

I was just going to say BUT the jolly machine is $1600 on the Festool website.

Maybes if they gave the same sort of discount on the machine more people would buy one!!

-- Lifes good, Enjoy each new day...... Cheers from "On Top DownUnder" Crowie

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Dutchy

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#4 posted 07-16-2018 07:55 AM

Can’t you buy the Festool 574325 DF500Q over there? Still expensive but less.

-- https://dutchypatterns.com/

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LittleBlackDuck

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#5 posted 07-17-2018 01:20 AM

Dutchy, yes we can, but Festool are renown for not discounting and sales are few and far between.

crowie, The basic Domino is $1,600 (actually $1,599) from ALL retailers… I’ve got my eye on the one that comes as a set which includes a variety of stops… that set retails for $1,749.00…

I have been denying myself the Domino for over 10 years as I have a Leigh FMT and a De-Walt biscut joiner which have made a Domino requirement redundant.

However, now that I have surrendered to my dark side (and purchase one of these kit)s… after all this time, it’s going to be hard to wait another 2 months for the Melbourne Working With Wood show (in September) where Festool usually offer their products at 10% discount.

It’s not a regular experience, but when it happens, I hate the pain of money burning a hole in my pocket more than parting with it!

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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builtinbkyn

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#6 posted 07-17-2018 02:05 AM

Can’t dominos be made on the router table? Just askin’ :)

-- Bill, Yo!......in Brooklyn & Steel City :)

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LittleBlackDuck

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#7 posted 07-17-2018 04:53 AM

Hi b’i’b’y’, These are typical tenons than I have made in the past with my FMT using a router,

When I screwed up I finish with these (off cuts),


Once trimmed,

they resemble the domino…

In summation, the FMT is like a router table so I could conclude that one could make dominos on a router table…
However, one of the features of a domino is tolerances (and perfect fits). I reckon it would be hard to get the same tolerances and repeatability from a router/table.

I would be confident that accurate tolerances could be achieved using a CNC, but if you put a realistic $ value on your time (not the sweat labour most hobby woodworkers tend to write off), with setup and design, I’m guessing I wouldn’t make a great saving as opposed to bulk buying. In the past I have been invited by friends to share in their domino bulk buying group, however, not owning one, I didn’t know what I could then do with my allocation. I might have to eat humble pie!

For people that are price conscious, they can always buy “off-market” dominos at less than half the Festool price… however, I believe there is a compromise in quality of material used.

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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builtinbkyn

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#8 posted 07-17-2018 01:29 PM

LBD I was thinking more along the lines of running long stock over the router table with the proper size round over bit and then cutting them to length. I don’t own a Domino yet ;) so I don’t know the actual sizes of the dominos that match the bits – my guess is there’s some tolerance allowed for fit when cutting say a 10mm mortise. But I would think achieving a good fit wouldn’t be difficult.

I’m considering one of the two Domino machines to fabricate my front doors. I figure I can get a useful tool and save money at the same time vs buying doors that need to be custom made anyway. Just wondering if ZI need to spend the extra on the wood bits :)

-- Bill, Yo!......in Brooklyn & Steel City :)

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LittleBlackDuck

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#9 posted 07-17-2018 03:30 PM

builtin’, running long stock sounds plausible to me. Still psyching up to actually buy the domino, so I can’t speak from experience. Also having bought the box of biscuits I guess I won’t be in the market for new ones for a while.

The should be quite a few LJs that probably own a Domino. Maybe a well worded blog question seeking experience advise wouldn’t go astray.

The main thing I have gathered is that I haven’t heard a bad word from any Domino owner… but then again after the cost of a unit, they may be too proud to admit to a poor decision.

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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robscastle

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#10 posted 07-26-2018 11:03 AM

I have a domino

Here is a link of it in action.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARM42-eorzE

-- Regards Rob

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crowie

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#11 posted 07-26-2018 11:21 AM



I have a domino

Here is a link of it in action.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARM42-eorzE

- robscastle

very good Rob, but the duck won’t be as impressed…wrong sort of domino!!!

-- Lifes good, Enjoy each new day...... Cheers from "On Top DownUnder" Crowie

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LittleBlackDuck

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#12 posted 07-26-2018 11:49 AM


..... but the duck won t be as impressed…..
- crowie

Well this duck was impressed… could sit and watch it for hours…

Nevertheless there are two things wrong with it… They weren’t real dominos just plastic stunt doubles… and not only was each piece missing a power cord and handle, they weren’t real Collingwood dominos… black and white.

Furthermore I get the same affect/result in my workshop when I drop something. It bounces of something else that then hits another item which rolls under a table and dislodges something else and this repeats till my workshop eventually turns into a black hole devouring everithing and with me just standing in the open najkid!

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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