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Building the Shop #7: My next toy for the shop!?!?!

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Blog entry by Lance posted 1108 days ago 1282 reads 0 times favorited 11 comments Add to Favorites Watch
« Part 6: INCRA made it to the shop Part 7 of Building the Shop series Part 8: DW735 on CL »

I wanted to get some feedback from Lumberjocker’s on what I should get next, I’m getting close to the end of all my big tool purchases and Fall is just around the corner so I’ll be able to get back in the shop to make sawdust, lets hope so with these hot days we’ve had.

My shopping list:

INCRA Joinery System Combo #1 w/ left had router table
Dewalt DW618PK Router….....or something better??? IDK, Suggestions!!
Grizzly 14” Deluxe Band Saw
Dewalt DW735 Planer

My question to all of you is…... what do I need most?!?

I plan on making shop furniture, side tables and a Jewelry Mirror this Fall.

I was thinking the INCRA Combo w/ a the Dewalt router…......... Let’s discuss what others think?????

-- Lance, Hook'em HORNS! ""V""



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Ritty

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#1 posted 1108 days ago

porter cable 3 horse router would probly be better, maybe with a router razier, then u can do all ur raised panels and bigger bits

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hjt

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#2 posted 1108 days ago

Have you checked out Ridgid’s planer at Home Depot? Lifetime warranty! I have several Ridgid tools and find them to be very good, plus the lifetime warranty is a huge plus.

-- Harold

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docholladay

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#3 posted 1108 days ago

Without knowing what you already have, it is hard to say. If you already have a router of some sort, my choice would be the band saw. I find the band saw to be an extremely useful tool. I use it almost as much as my table saw. The 14” is a good size. The Grizzly has received good reviews. However, if money were no object, I think I would opt for Powermatic. Unfortunately, for me, money is an object so I purchased a used Delta (actually it is an old Rockwell in the pre-delta days – that is actually better) for my own shop. Much the way that I got all of my stationary machines.

Doc

-- Hey, woodworking ain't brain surgery. Just do something and keep trying till you get it. Doc

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Cosmicsniper

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#4 posted 1108 days ago

How will you mount the router? If you don’t use a lift, then I’d opt for either the Milwaukee 5625 or the big Triton. These allow for above the table bit changes out of the box, as well as some lift capabilities, though neither is substitution for a real lift – the Tritons are not compatible with other lifts though. However, some will argue that the built-in lift in the Triton is all you need (that’s not true for me, but it is for some). But both are larger hp routers, which I think is very important in a router table. The DeWalt isn’t a bad approach either since you can also use it handheld, but that requires a more traditional approach to bit changes and adjustments.

But definitely get the router table and Incra setup first. Just too much that can be done with them, and you can take advantage of the Incra fence on the table saw, which I think is worth the cost alone. You’ll be astonished at how fast and accurate your cuts will be.

You will want that planer soon thereafter. The more that you practice the joinery, the more you’ll see that many of the templates require thicknessed boards.

-- jay, www.allaboutastro.com

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Transition

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#5 posted 1108 days ago

You don’t need the joinery system and would probably benefit from learning how to join without it.

And I believe you already have a router?

So it’s a toss-up between the planer and the band saw…

A planer is really nice for making flat panels. I have one and I use it for processing wood that I mill from trees with my chain saw. But the planer limits you to 13” and you might be able to make do with your joiner. In addition you’ll want to set up a place for it, and maybe even create extended infeed and outfeed tables. And you’re gonna want to get your dust collector up and running.

So I’d probably go with the band saw. As I recall you were going to make your wife a jewelry box? You could make her a nice band saw box (there are lots of beautiful designs), to hold her over…

Of course you could just buy them all. Plus a lathe; you definitely need a lathe…

-- Andrew, Orange County, CA - www.TransitionTurning.com

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RKW

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#6 posted 1107 days ago

i would go with the planer or bandsaw. there are some operations that are impossible or next to impossible to do without a bandsaw. Other tools you can find alternative ways to achieve operation. Basically i would say a bandsaw would be your most versatille tool. On the other hand, a planer with your tablesaw and jointer gives you the ability to mill your own lumber to and dimension you need. There are other ways to thickness lumber but i have never done it. A router and a shop built jig will achieve that operation.
Ive only had my bandsaw for a few weeks so i am still learning. I can tell you that different blades make a huge difference. You will want to start out with at least two blades.

-- RKWoods

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Roger

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#7 posted 1107 days ago

well, before you can do anything, if you’re buying rough cut lumber,.... you need a planer after the jointer of coarse. :) but, and, actually, you may need a bandsaw to cut the rough lumber to make it to the planer to etc… oh my, I’m soooo confused!!! haha anyway, good luck with your decision.

-- Roger from KY. Work/Play/Travel Safe. Kentuk55@bellsouth.net

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Bertha

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#8 posted 1107 days ago

My vote’s the planer. I love my 735 but I often wish I’d bought a non-grizzly (sorry, guys) stationary unit. That being said, I think 13” is pretty workable. I’m not sure how much I’d gain in MY SHOP (just my shop and the stuff I make) with a few extra inches. I just like the idea of a big stationary tool, sitting at the ready. The 735 isn’t exactly “portable” after all. ;)

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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Lance

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#9 posted 1107 days ago

Thanks for the advise gentlemen!

I don’t have a router yet!!!!, that’s why I was thinking the DW618 for now and I’ll get the 3HP Porter Cable down the road for my router extension on my TS. I’m searching hard on CL for the DW735 planer so I can save a few $$$! I think I’m going to have to buy the INCRA TS-LS joinery system new along with the Grizzly 14” Band Saw.

I would love to buy the Grizzly BS next but the current funds won’t allow me to do that seeing I just bought my wife a king Serta I-Comfort bed, with that purchase I could have bought all 4 items at once!!! lol Things you do for your wife?! lol

As for now, leaning towards the router! I found the fix/plunge base kit for $179 w/ free shipping.

-- Lance, Hook'em HORNS! ""V""

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Bertha

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#10 posted 1107 days ago

Oooh, yeah, I might get a router first;) Unfortunately, the 735s seem to hold their value pretty well. They come up on occasion, though. When you’re looking at the 3hp routers, don’t overlook the Freud. I’ve been really happy with mine, much better than my 3hp Triton. I got my Freud for under $250 and I KNOW I got the triton for under $200. Good luck!

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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gfadvm

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#11 posted 1107 days ago

I’d recommend a Ridgid planer as mine has proven itself over time and miles of lumber. I also like Ridgid planer blades better than DW. Then start saving for the 17” Extreme series bandsaw from Grizzly as it is well worth the extra bucks. Come visit and you can “test drive” my planer and bandsaw.

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

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