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Big cabinet for the new home #5: Working on the doors: Need opinion on reinforcements.

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Blog entry by Lalen posted 07-06-2018 12:13 PM 1872 reads 0 times favorited 5 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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Changed the design back to bigger windows, and boy am I glad. Making 12 doors required 72 parts. Here is a dry fit of one upper and lower door.

I used the Glass Panel Door router set from Sommerfeld’s Tools. I found his videos on youtube and found it very helpful and so I ordered his set and followed his process.

Here is my question. Because my lower doors are fairly large (47”x16”) I am wondering if I may need to reinforce the corner joints. Here is a couple pictures of how it will glue together. This is birch (pretty hard) and the engagement is about 7/16 deep and the rails are 2-7/16 wide.

It may be enough.. lots of glue area although some is end grain to side grain. Opinions appreciated! Options I am considering…(note project will be painted)

After assembly: Dowels or countersunk screws through the stiles into the rails (would have to be 4”) .. or cutting a 1/4” wide 1” deep dado across the top and bottom of the door and adding splines.

During assembly... Cut pocket holes in the rails and screw through into the stiles. I tested on some scraps and looks pretty strong although I have to fill the holes.

Here are a few more in process pictures. I had a bunch of 4/4 birch I had no plans for.. (got it from a guy who was moving for about $0.50 per board foot.) Milled up and prepped the parts over the course of several days.

-- Lalen, Texas. "If it looks straight, it is straight" Jimmy Diresta



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pintodeluxe

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#1 posted 07-06-2018 05:41 PM

I wouldn’t bother with the pocket screws. You’ve got a lot of joints that each have a lot of surface area for glue.

-- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush

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Lalen

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#2 posted 07-06-2018 06:37 PM

Thanks for the feedback Willie. I really didn’t want to do the pocket screws and fill the holes. Since these will be painted.. I can add later if I end up with problems.


I wouldn t bother with the pocket screws. You ve got a lot of joints that each have a lot of surface area for glue.

- pintodeluxe


-- Lalen, Texas. "If it looks straight, it is straight" Jimmy Diresta

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robscastle

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#3 posted 07-09-2018 10:42 AM

Lalen,

(47”x16”) is 1193.8 and 406.4 in mm. with 3 x cross pieces equally spaced.

A question first, What sort of glue do you intend using?

-- Regards Rob

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Lalen

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#4 posted 07-09-2018 02:19 PM

Hi Rob…

Thanks!

I used Titebond III.. its what I had but didn’t think about glue types like using epoxy.) I went ahead and assembled, but still considering the reinforcement options. The cross pieces are 1-1/8” wide and do add some strength.

thanks for any input.


Lalen,

(47”x16”) is 1193.8 and 406.4 in mm. with 3 x cross pieces equally spaced.

A question first, What sort of glue do you intend using?

- robscastle


-- Lalen, Texas. "If it looks straight, it is straight" Jimmy Diresta

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robscastle

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#5 posted 07-26-2018 10:59 AM

With the III glue they will be fine, either way, if you do decide to add screws so be it.

-- Regards Rob

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