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Remodel the Shop #2: Venting - Why can't you be level

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Blog entry by Kevin posted 03-10-2008 05:10 PM 1235 reads 0 times favorited 13 comments Add to Favorites Watch
« Part 1: Initial Sketchup Drawing - ideas welcome Part 2 of Remodel the Shop series Part 3: South wall redesign and Progress Pics »

I can’t even discribe to you all how I felt Sunday. I don’t think those words are appropriate here, but I’m sure most of you have used them before.

Have you ever assumed something. There is a reason that people say assume makes an ass out of u and me.

I do know better, but my Dad was at the house Sunday and we thought we’d get a bunch done. The first order of business was to get the crown molding and other moldings out of the middle of the floor so we had room to work. Actual first thing we went to the tool store. Every good project starts there.

Anyways, I knew the floor of my shop wasn’t level because there is a large floor sink in the middle one bay and the floor slopes to it. That point was brought up again when I forgot and had to rebuild the walls around the dust collector.

I thought I can’t measure off of the floor, so I’ll make all of the racks exactly the same and sit them tight to the ceiling. That way they will all be level. Got them all made and hung on the wall. Then set my level up there to double check and @*#$. I found out that they didn’t level the walls when the shop was built. They build directly on top of the sloped floor.

This out of level BS is starting to get on my nerves if you haven’t guessed that yet.

I temporarily hung the racks on the walls and got the stuff off the floor. Then I worked on the 18’ long workbench. I got the back brace up and half of the front. The bench is 36” off the floor at the right end and 37.5” at the left end.

I’ll try to get more pictures and drawings posted tonight.

-- Kevin, Wichita, Kansas



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Dadoo

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#1 posted 03-10-2008 05:16 PM

Next time you go to the tool store, buy yourself one of those laser levels. That might help by projecting a level line on the walls. Then you won’t have to worry about the ceiling or floor.

-- Bob Vila would be so proud of you!

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Kevin

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#2 posted 03-10-2008 05:41 PM

Actually my Dad has one of the little ones. I did use it to set my workbench height.

-- Kevin, Wichita, Kansas

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Thos. Angle

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#3 posted 03-10-2008 06:09 PM

Unfortunately, that seems to be the norm these days. I guess it was the norm long ago as well. We have a house that was built around 1900 and there isn’t a level spot on the floor or a square corner. I guess that’s what moldings are for.

-- Thos. Angle, Jordan Valley, Oregon

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damnHippie

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#4 posted 03-10-2008 07:08 PM

As my father-in-law, an architect by profession and a DIY home remodeller by hobby, has said, “In construction, right angles are a myth.” I believe that extends to level surfaces, too. Especially considering foundations settle over time.

-- 10 fingers, 2 eyes, and healthy lungs. for now. :P

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Thuan

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#5 posted 03-10-2008 07:34 PM

We see this once in a while with the cabinet business, we’d get a call back saying our cabinets are not level. Well, you know the rest.

-- Thuan

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GaryK

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#6 posted 03-10-2008 08:00 PM

There’s always a drop ceiling.

-- Gary - Never pass up the opportunity to make a mistake look like you planned it that way - Tyler, TX

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Kevin

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#7 posted 03-10-2008 09:26 PM

Gary Gary Gary, you’re tring to work me to hard. I can live with the ceiling and floor both being out of level. It just looks bad when I put my stuff level and it is not parallel to the ceiling or floor. With only having 9’ ceilings I cannot afford to loose any height anyways.

-- Kevin, Wichita, Kansas

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teenagewoodworker

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#8 posted 03-10-2008 09:29 PM

i have the same problem in my workshop. nothings level and it makes it really hard to hang things other than on the wall that my dad built which is pretty small.

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GaryK

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#9 posted 03-10-2008 09:33 PM

Well, if no drop ceiling then why not just build a whole new shop? :-)

-- Gary - Never pass up the opportunity to make a mistake look like you planned it that way - Tyler, TX

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Kevin

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#10 posted 03-10-2008 09:46 PM

GaryK, Can I get you to talk my wife into that. I don’t think I have that much skill.

Actually Sunday when I came inside after becoming fully frustrated I told that I would be better off tearing it down and building a new shop. She didn’t seem to think that was neccessary.

Well, I know who the boss is in my house so I told her how it is…..which is exactly how she told me it would be. :-)

-- Kevin, Wichita, Kansas

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GaryK

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#11 posted 03-10-2008 09:52 PM

:-)

-- Gary - Never pass up the opportunity to make a mistake look like you planned it that way - Tyler, TX

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Dick, & Barb Cain

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#12 posted 03-10-2008 11:00 PM

I fixed up an old house for my Mother back in 1968.

When installed the base cabinets in the kitchen the floor was nice, & level,

but then when I started to hang the wall units, I found out ceiling was 3” out of level in 8 feet.

I was going to put up a cornice, but it would have looked terrible, so I just left them open on the top.

You could hardly tell the difference unless you looked real hard for it.

-- -** You are never to old to set another goal or to dream a new dream ****************** Dick, & Barb Cain, Hibbing, MN. http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/gallery/member.php?uid=3627&protype=1

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#13 posted 03-17-2008 05:30 PM

Rick worked on a kitchen last year where the floor sloped one way and the walls sloped the other… he said that the kitchen cabinets were quite “interesting” :)

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (https://www.facebook.com/DebbiePribeleENJOConsultant)

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