LumberJocks

Remodel the Shop #1: Initial Sketchup Drawing - ideas welcome

  • Advertise with us
Blog entry by Kevin posted 2329 days ago 9439 reads 1 time favorited 19 comments Add to Favorites Watch
no previous part Part 1 of Remodel the Shop series Part 2: Venting - Why can't you be level »

Well,

I finally sat down last night night and drew up the shop. This was the first attempt, so it may change some. Also most of the tools/cabinets are very rough or borrowed. I’ll try to get them better when gets closer to constructing them.

top

I’ll start you out on the East wall. Most of this is already set in stone you might say. I am planning on putting a pipe rack over the double garage door. May get used for dimensional lumber storage as well. On the left is my double stainless sink, water heater, furnace, and bathroom. The cabinet under the sink will be discussed later.
The OSB box looking thing is the rough size of my rolling lumber cart. This will still get used for sheet goods and project specific lumber storage.

east

The the South wall. There is a fridge, blank space for my Ridgid table saw and any new purchases, two rolling carts under the window, the metal box looking thing is actually a stainless steel open wire rolling rack like you might see in restaurants (too lazy to draw it correctly), then a cabinet on the end that will house paint, stain, automotive stuff, and what ever else I can stuff into it. Above the window you have a 16” x 16” shelf along the wall. All of my cabinets and shelves will have some type of door. I used transparent material in Sketchup for visual aid.

south

The West wall. The paint cabinet on the left, followed by bandsaw storage area (I plan to put it on a rolling base), followed by my 18’ of workbench, and finally a closet housing the air compressor and dust collection system. The bench is NOT my woodworking bench for those that are worried. This will be for assembly, project storage, bench top tools (grinder, metal vise, drill press, ...), and misc garage type work. Under it will house more rolling carts, a file cabinet, and this is also where I will sit and ponder. Over it is a couple shallow cabinets for tool storage. Over that is a 18’ long shelf for rarely used items like concrete, sheet rock, and tile tools, may also house some dimensional lumber.

west

The North wall. On the far left is the dust collector cabinet, a 2’x2’ cutoff bin follows with the woodworking workbench next to it. This one I will have out in the open part of the garage most of the time. Over it is a cabinet for hand tool storage. To the right is a spot for the planer and miter saw to rest when not in use. They will both be on rolling carts (discussed later).

north

Finally the center piece. I plan to put my Unisaw in an outfeed table/assembly station. This will allow me to cut full sheets of plywood with no problem. My router is in a cast iron wing on the Unisaw. Under the top will be cabinets. To the right either the miter saw or the planer will be parked while in use. This will give me 8’ of feed to the left and let me use the Unifence as a miter stop. To the right is a removable plank that will stretch over to the cabinet under the sink. This will provide 8’ to the right for support for both the miter saw and planer. Behind this removable top is the jointer.

unisaw

Any thoughts, ideas, or concerns are welcome. Like I said I threw this together last night and so the detail and accuracy may not be the best, but right now I just need a starting point. I have a lot of work ahead of me, but will thoroughly enjoy it. I have to run new electrical first and re-paint all the walls white.

FYI: All workbenches and stationary saws will have their tops at the same level to provide ends supporting options.

Thank you guys.

-- Kevin, Wichita, Kansas



19 comments so far

View Kevin's profile

Kevin

293 posts in 2553 days


#1 posted 2329 days ago

All of my pictures drawings got cut off on the left side. If anyone knows how to fix it, let me know and I’ll get them corrected. Pictures sized to fit a 800×600 screen.

-- Kevin, Wichita, Kansas

View wildbill903's profile

wildbill903

53 posts in 2537 days


#2 posted 2329 days ago

I like how you have your miterbox saw setup, next to your table saw. I’ll definitely be thinking of that when i set up my new shop. You may want to put the dust collection tubing in so you can count out your tubing, blastgates, adapters and floor sweeps. looks great!

View Kevin's profile

Kevin

293 posts in 2553 days


#3 posted 2329 days ago

Wildbill,

I plan to get everything drawn in eventually, but I want to make sure of all of my major tool locations first. I’m not fast enough to draw it all twice. HA HA.

I have an idea on the dust collection, but I doubt if anyone will like it. Since I want to use the NE corner of my tablesaw outfeed for assembly, I do not want a dust collector tube running down from the ceiling. Therefore I am going to run it across the floor. I don’t like it, but I haven’t come up with anything better yet.

I’ll run a 6” to the Unisaw table area: branch off to the Unisaw, the router, jointer, miter saw/planer, and a sweep on the South and maybe on the North edge, and possibly make the NW corner a sanding table. The other tools will get there dust collection from overhead.

What do you think? Makes the run to the Unisaw station tools much shorter too.

-- Kevin, Wichita, Kansas

View kshipp's profile

kshipp

179 posts in 2373 days


#4 posted 2329 days ago

I really like the idea of what I take is a removable support for the miter saw. That really makes a good use of the space you have while allowing you to get around the shop.
Excellent work on the Sketchup also. I’m still trying to play with it and learning more everyday.

-- Kyle Shipp, http://battleshipp.blogspot.com

View Kevin's profile

Kevin

293 posts in 2553 days


#5 posted 2329 days ago

kshipp, Thanks for the kind words about my attempt at Sketchup. It really isn’t a difficult program, but it does create some aggravation sometimes.

You are correct, the right hand “table” on the miter saw is removable and I think I’ll store it under the front of the Unisaw.

-- Kevin, Wichita, Kansas

View Paul D's profile

Paul D

2122 posts in 2344 days


#6 posted 2329 days ago

Kevin, I can’t really help you but I just had to say that if my shop had a fridge and a bathroom I might never leave :) I look forward to following your project and seeing where you end up.

-- Paul D - Lawrenceville, Georgia

View Jiri Parkman's profile

Jiri Parkman

950 posts in 2408 days


#7 posted 2329 days ago

Amazing shop. Perfect drawings. There is lots of inspiration in it. Thanks for sharing.

-- Jiri

View Tony Z's profile

Tony Z

205 posts in 2385 days


#8 posted 2329 days ago

Those drawings are awesome. Do you have the paid version of sketchup? I have the free version and I’m still figuring it out. Did you have to draw each of those tools or were they pre made in the software? Also, the outfeed side of your table saw seems close to the wall as to not allow you to finish a rip of a longer board. I have the blade of my table saw exactly centered on the long dimension of my shop so I know if I can feed it into the saw I will be able to rip it’s whole length without hitting the wall. Again, those drawings are awesome.

-- Tony, Ohio

View Mario's profile

Mario

902 posts in 2647 days


#9 posted 2329 days ago

WOW nice drawings. I have to ask …How long did it take you to do that?? I just can’t seem to get the hang of that program at all.

-- Hope Never fails

View Patrick Jaromin's profile

Patrick Jaromin

348 posts in 2428 days


#10 posted 2329 days ago

Very nice plan…I’m envious of the relatively cavernous room you have!

As for the dust collection, if it were my shop I’d absolutely drop it from the ceiling to the unisaw station in the area behind the miter/jointer. Seems the perfect spot for it and much less out of the way than a pipe across the floor that your certain to trip over and will curse when trying to roll heavy equipment around with partially-assembled pieces in the open area.

However, if you use S&D pipe and don’t glue it together, changing it around it fairly easy anyway…so probably not that big a deal to try it out and see if it works or not.

I look forward to the pics as the plan comes together!

-- Patrick, Chicago, IL http://www.TenonAndSpline.com/blog

View ND2ELK's profile

ND2ELK

13495 posts in 2369 days


#11 posted 2329 days ago

Hi Kevin

You did a nice job on the drawings. I know you don’t want to hear this idea but I would turn the table saw so it runs south and north. That way you could open up the big door if you were ripping longer stock. Switch west and north walls around. As it is now, if you were going to rip 12” off a 4’ X 8’ sheet your dust collection cabinet is in the way. No matter what you do I am sure it will be a beautiful shop to work in. Thanks for posting. Good luck with the new shop.

Tom

-- Mc Bridge Cabinets, Iowa

View Kevin's profile

Kevin

293 posts in 2553 days


#12 posted 2328 days ago

Wow, I am speachless. I didn’t post this expecting to get complimented on my Sketchup skills. A lot of the tools were pre-made/started by other people, but all the rest is mine. I have the free version. Took me about 6 hours including the time to figure out what I wanted to do.

Paul, It is hard to go back in the house sometimes. Last night I quit at well 12:30 this morning actually.

Tony, the saw is set up so that a 10’ long board can be ripped. If I have to rip anything longer than that, which is rare, I can use my other table saw.

Tom, The problem with your idea is that I still need to be able to pull a truck in the garage from time to time. Once this saw is set with the table, it is not moving. I’m guessing it’ll weigh over 1,000 pounds when complete. Good call on the plywood though. I have enough room to rip a sheet in half and clear the dust collector. I guess the way it is now, I’d have to put the 3’ side next to the fence and have the 12” be on the left of the blade. I might play with this a little tonight and see if I can shift the saw station to the South & East a little farther.

-- Kevin, Wichita, Kansas

View 8iowa's profile

8iowa

1489 posts in 2356 days


#13 posted 2327 days ago

kevin:

I built a rolling wood rack, with brackets on both sides and a 12” wide center section for 4’x8’ sheet storage. With nine high quality 3” castors I find that I cannot move it, even on my very smooth and level concrete floor. You will be surprised at just how easy it is to load it to 1000 lbs or more. Fortunately, my shop has a gambrel roof, giving me a 12’ x 28’ second floor which I am now using for wood drying and storage. I plan to cut down my present rolling rack considerably, basically so that it just holds enough wood for the projects at hand. Maybe then I can move it.

A large garage door presents problems. Basically, it is a large wall that you can’t hang anything on, or put anything permanently in front of. Unless the rest of your space is quite large, it almost forces you to keep most of your tools mobile. For dust collection, I have a smaller, lower HP collector that I roll around and connect to each machine as I use them. Because of the noise, shops with 2 HP and larger collectors on hard ducted systems like to place them outside the shop in their own enclosure if possible.

I painted my walls and ceiling semi-gloss white. I have a mixture of incandescent and electronic ballast fluorescent light fixtures. The electronic ballasts operate at 21,000 HZ and do not flicker and hum like the old magnetic ballast fluorescent lighting.

-- "Heaven is North of the Bridge"

View coronet1967's profile

coronet1967

24 posts in 2546 days


#14 posted 2327 days ago

the drawings look good. well thought out. the only thing i would comment on is electrical service, i have my shop on its own meter and breaker panel.
this will allow you to keep a record of shop expense if you decide to sell stuff in the future, also it will allow you flexability in your wiring.

however many plugins you have you will find that you need more. in my small shop i put one every 4 feet but that was 10 years ago b4 the price of copper wire was impossible. in the shop i built last year i am still installing plugins both 110 and 220.
i have found that i need them both on the wall and hanging from the ceiling, and it would of been nice if i had put a few in the floor when i pored the pad.

jay angel

-- "not all those who wander are lost" JRR tolken

View Kevin's profile

Kevin

293 posts in 2553 days


#15 posted 2325 days ago

8iowa,

I built this rolling rack. http://lumberjocks.com/projects/4773
I may not keep as much sheet goods on hand as you do though. Mine rolls quite easily loaded as is.

Jay Angel,

I am a journeyman electrician and so I have no problem adding receptacles where needed. When I bought this place the shop had ever outlet on the same breaker. When I get done, you won’t have to look far for a receptacle.

Thanks for the comments.

-- Kevin, Wichita, Kansas

showing 1 through 15 of 19 comments

Have your say...

You must be signed in to post the comments.

DISCLAIMER: Any posts on LJ are posted by individuals acting in their own right and do not necessarily reflect the views of LJ. LJ will not be held liable for the actions of any user.

Latest Projects | Latest Blog Entries | Latest Forum Topics

HomeRefurbers.com

Latest Projects | Latest Blog Entries | Latest Forum Topics

GardenTenders.com :: gardening showcase