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Location: Frackville, PA 17931
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Just a wood worker, metal, worker, handyman guy. I also teach Industrial Arts. Mostly AutoCAD but I get involved in the wood and metal shop. Young people are the best and we have a great group of students at my school.

-- K. Stone “Tell me and I forget, teach me and I may remember, involve me and I learn.” ― Benjamin Franklin

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ravensrock

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#1 posted 02-18-2017 03:12 PM

Hi Kelster58-

Thanks for the message. I get my hardwood from different places- sometimes a guy locally, Middletown Lumber a couple times and more recently I’ve been getting it from Groffs Lumber in Quarryville. I’ve been happy with them so far but it’s about an hour away. My last batch I got online- one of Steve Wall Lumber’s bundles. I’ll probably do that again. Where do you get yours? I’ve been trying to find a decent place for cabinet grade plywood around here.

The actual website is a work in progress. But until then I try to keep up with the Facebook page. Looks like you have a business going there. Do you do it full time?

-- Dave, York, PA, Wildside Woodworking

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Kelster58

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#2 posted 02-18-2017 03:58 PM

I teach school and build things for people. I buy from Siegel Lumber, 3901 Sweet Arrow Lake Rd, Pine Grove, PA 17963. (570) 345-8426 He’s probably about as far a drive as Quarryville for you. I pay 2.60 bd ft for red oak. His stuff is all kiln dried and very stable. I am going to try Hearne Hardwoods in Oxford, PA. Just a bit farther than Quarryville. http://www.hearnehardwoods.com I am also going to try Hill Custom Lumber in Lehighton Pa
610-360-5203 Cory hill said he has kiln dried oak for 2.10 bd ft and he will plane it 2 sides for me for .50 bd ft. That sounds like a great deal. If you find a source for cabinet grade plywood send it my way…......

-- K. Stone “Tell me and I forget, teach me and I may remember, involve me and I learn.” ― Benjamin Franklin

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ravensrock

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#3 posted 02-19-2017 01:06 AM

Never heard of Siegel Lumber- but that’s a very good price. I have heard of Hearne Hardwoods and will probably check them out sometime. I was looking for some white oak plywood. Middletown Lumber said about $100 or so for a 3/4 X 4 X 8 sheet. Don’t know if that’s a good price or not. Also found a place in Reading- Industrial Plywood. Not sure what they charge.

-- Dave, York, PA, Wildside Woodworking

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DWoodhead

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#4 posted 01-24-2018 10:47 AM

I am new to woodworking. I am having trouble understanding how to buy lumber in board ft. I sort of understand the formula but am confused with the amount i get for board ft. My question is that if i need (10) 1” x 4” by 10ft boards how much would that be in board ft? Anybody’s answer will be greatly appreciated.

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Kelster58

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#5 posted 01-24-2018 11:27 AM



I am new to woodworking. I am having trouble understanding how to buy lumber in board ft. I sort of understand the formula but am confused with the amount i get for board ft. My question is that if i need (10) 1” x 4” by 10ft boards how much would that be in board ft? Anybody s answer will be greatly appreciated.

- DWoodhead

Because hardwood lumber comes rough and in random widths and lengths, I calculate board footage per board. Your 1” x 4” wide board is 1/3rd of a board foot. I would take the length of the board in feet and divide by three. 10 divided by 3 is 3.33. Each 1×4 x 10’ board is 3.33 board feet. You would not typically go to a mill for rough lumber and buy 1×4 x 10 boards. All the boards will be different widths and lengths.

You always give the size of a board thickness first, width second, length third. When I am buying hardwood for a project, I purchase rough lumber. I calculate the number of board feet I need for the project add at least 25% and purchase that amount. Then I use my jointer and planer to surface the boards to 3/4 inch thickness.

If you are purchasing finished lumber(surfaced 4 sides) from a big box store then you buy it by the board and board feet usually isn’t an issue. Because the boards are surfaced already they will come in a standard size. Don’t confuse nominal size with the actual size. A 1×4 x 10 will be finished to an actual size of 3/4×3-1/2×10. It is still 3.33 board feet because board feet is always calculated from the rough or nominal dimensions.

There are many board foot calculators on line as well as charts that show nominal and actual sizes of dimensional lumber.

1 board foot equals 1” thickness(4 quarter) by 12” width x 12” length, rough dimensions not finished dimensions. Thickness is always given in quarters. 5 quarters is 1-1/4” thickness. 10 quarters is 2-1/2” thickness.

-- K. Stone “Tell me and I forget, teach me and I may remember, involve me and I learn.” ― Benjamin Franklin

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Woodmaster1

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#6 posted 01-25-2018 01:10 AM

Great to see fellow industrial arts teachers on the site. I retired 2.5 years ago after 40 years. It is a great gig and I loved every minute. This year I taught CAD at the Vocational School for seven weeks until they found a new teacher to replace the one that quit. I enjoyed teaching CAD for seven weeks but I believe retirement is more fun, so I will not be repeating that mental lapse again.

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#7 posted 01-25-2018 08:36 AM

Yes, you are correct 18 students would make sawdust fly. My all time high was 35 students the 1st year, what a nightmare trying to keep track.

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