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Blog entry by Keen1 posted 11-21-2007 06:26 AM 4292 reads 0 times favorited 14 comments Add to Favorites Watch

Well so far almost all of the grand plans I had for my shop have been scrapped. Unlike leftover wood, those plans ended up in the trash. First was the time frame. About a month and a half ago I told my wife it would be a weekend deal…..two at the most. If you saw it now you might wonder if I was really working on it or just sitting down there for some peace and quiet. With 5 young children, 4 of them girls and 2 of those being 2 yo twins, a table saw is quiet. Three main things have slowed me down: 1. My shop is in a basement directly below my older girls bedroom. Therefore no power tools after hours unless I move them. 2. Too much stuff. I’ve got so many things to keep organized I think I’ve defeated the purpose. 3. Measuring how big things are in my head doesn’t work. I tore out some old shelves thinking I would have plenty of room for a table saw then a router table….. Kids calling more later

-- Dad to 5, Son of The One



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Thos. Angle

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#1 posted 11-21-2007 02:40 PM

That’s life and a good one too.

-- Thos. Angle, Jordan Valley, Oregon

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SPalm

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#2 posted 11-21-2007 03:40 PM

I believe many of us can relate. It is so much eaisier to dream it than build it. Just keep dreaming and keep chipping away at it. Your children are your most important job you’ve got right now. They will be all grown up faster than you might believe.

Steve

-- -- I'm no rocket surgeon

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mot

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#3 posted 11-21-2007 04:33 PM

Keen1! Cheers, Brother! Life often gets in the way of recreation. Good luck!

-- You can discover more about a person in an hour of play than in a year of conversation. (Plato)

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Dominic Vanacora

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#4 posted 11-21-2007 07:06 PM

You have five children, your a lucky guy. I had to wait until I retired before I could start a hobbie. Your wife must be a wonderful person. Never give up the dream!

-- Dominic, Trinity, Florida...Lets be safe out there.

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Russel

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#5 posted 11-21-2007 07:25 PM

I don’t see why a table saw is a problem under the kids room. When my daughter was still in a crib I thought myself a musician. The band, with drums and amplifiers, was directly under her room. She got used to it. I must admit, having all the kids gone makes making noise less of a problem. Keep pluggin’ away and before you know it you’ll be makin’ stuff for the grandkids.

-- Working at Woodworking http://www.VillageLaneFurniture.com

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MsDebbieP

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#6 posted 11-21-2007 08:01 PM

and you can always do the noisy work pre-bedtime and do quiet hand work after lights out.

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (https://www.facebook.com/DebbiePribeleENJOConsultant)

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Keen1

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#7 posted 11-26-2007 04:44 PM

I could add a fourth thing that has slowed things down but I really factored the kids into the delay. Actually, as someone noted, they are the most important project right now. I love it when they spend time with me in the workshop. And as Dominic noted, my wife is wonderful. She understands that I need a little cave time just to keep my head right. Russell, only problem with the saw under the bedroom, is that it is under the first born’s bedroom. She started her sleep routine in total quiet. The third was born while we were adding on to the house so she can sleep through all the saws. Thinking I may add a little insulation to help with the noise. And finally MsDebbieP, I wish could do the loud work pre-bedtime, but from the time I get home to the time we get them to bed, I’m going 100 MPH chasing them all around, giving baths, getting jammies on, keeping order at the dinner table, reading bedtime stories (or just keeping them away from Mama who has enough of them being with them all day), these things are in no particular order because I never know the order until it happens each night.

Okay back on track to original post….Table saw to router table (doubling as outfeed table) and still have enough room for my Sliding compound Miter Saw. After framing most of this set up, realized, no room for the saw. But have found good alternative. I’ll actually keep it on a mobile base, with the planer below it. at the beginning of the line and close to the door so I’ll have room to feed out of the planer. Will also have mobile station with bandsaw on top but scroll saw, grinder and benchtop sander weighting the bottom and for storage room. Thought about doing the same with the drill press. But I think I’ll just leave it on the main workbench. I actually have two. I’m wondering it if would work to place the older press below the bench whereby I could use the the base plate in a similar fashion as if I had a floor mounted press. Any ideas on whether or not that would work.

After I get done with the saws and routers on one side, I’ll go the to the opposite side where I do have a good workbench to start with. Then plan on building storage or seldom used tools and other “stuff” on one side. Then build dedicated shelving on the other side for power hand tools, (jig saw, power planer, angle grinder, dremel tool etc..) with retractable outlet mounted above workbench for use as needed. Also need to note part of the storage on the first side will include dedicated place for air tools as my compressor is under the bench on that side. I started question in the forum, as plans have been changing I have not gone back to it yet. I tried the google sketch up to post a potential layout. First, I haven’t figured that out yet. Also don’t know how to post pictures. I’m thinking I’ll start with top view made from power-point (very easy for me) to get started and see what suggestions I get. Two questions though, Is a rough sketch of a top view the best thing to post or do I need to put all four walls in a front view. I guess I could do both. Top view would just take less time for now. and secondly can somebody please tell me how and where to upload the sketch for others to see.

Again, Thanks for the warm welcome. I look forward to getting to know a lot of you better and learning from you. And maybe someday soon be able to contribute.

Just out of curiousity (and nothing scientific here) what percentage of the members of lumbers are:
Professional woodworkers (does it as their main source of income)
Expert Hobbyists (maybe retired, very experienced, in the shop almost daily, may recieve some income)
Experienced Hobbyists (strictly hobby, 3 days or less in the shop)
Beginners (Like working with wood but have no real experience)?

Hopefully those four will capture most of the members. Like I said nothing scientific, just gut feel, because again, this is just out of curiousity. Mainly to know if I’m going to be an outcast, asking all kinds of questions and only experiences I can share things NOT to do.

Thanks again

-- Dad to 5, Son of The One

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Keen1

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#8 posted 11-26-2007 04:51 PM

Oh and one more thing….....WARRRRR EAGLE! #6

(for those not from Alabama, Auburn beat Alabama for the 6th straight year)

-- Dad to 5, Son of The One

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MsDebbieP

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#9 posted 11-27-2007 02:29 PM

maybe Martin can rig up something to show us the stats…

as for evening solitude, looks like you are going to be a handtool guy :)

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (https://www.facebook.com/DebbiePribeleENJOConsultant)

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Keen1

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#10 posted 11-27-2007 09:31 PM

“as for evening solitude, looks like you are going to be a handtool guy”

Probably one of the reasons I use my miter saw more than anything else. I can get a quick accurate cut in about 1 one second. It’s the table saw and router that cause most of the problem. I can get by with a drill press for a few holes. Nothing over 4-5 minutes though. Honestly I don’t mind the hand tools. Usually I spend that time measuring and marking so when I do get that rare chance to let the dust fly, everything is set up and ready to cut.

On the subject of stats on experienced people, might be worth checking out a site called “experts-exchange”. Very similar format, totally different subject. It’s all about computers but when I started building computers I found 3-4 guys that really showed me the ropes. Nobody gets paid but they real experts that reach a certain level (by having their answers accepted and rated) get free stuff or get to try prototype stuff. Two of the guys that helped me, had Windows Vista running on their PC a couple of years before it came to market. Sorry for the geek tech talk. But this site reminds me a lot of that one. A lot of friendly people willing to help each other out.

-- Dad to 5, Son of The One

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Keen1

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#11 posted 11-30-2007 07:37 PM

I thought I had made some progress before Thanksgiving as far as cleaning out the mess. Only to realize I had a lot tools in the back of my truck that I had taken with me to help a friend build a deck. I’m finishing up the mobile base for the Miter saw and Planer. Next I’ll tackle the router table….or maybe I just need to work on storage first…what do you think?

http://picasaweb.google.com/auburnfan93/Workshop02

As for the box shelves I want to build on the left side of my workbench, any ideas? Have you seen anything like that posted on here before. I think I may need to start there or on the right side that will give me even more storage room. As I’m typing this, I’ve convinced myself to go with the storage before the router table. I won’t need it to build the simple shelves. That mobile base will help a lot by getting the planer out of the middle of the shop though.

-- Dad to 5, Son of The One

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MsDebbieP

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#12 posted 11-30-2007 11:29 PM

storage… I’m voting for storage.
Someone on here recently did a clean sweep of the basement/shop and organized the contents… result: more workspace.

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (https://www.facebook.com/DebbiePribeleENJOConsultant)

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clieb91

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#13 posted 12-01-2007 06:53 AM

Keen1, Two suggestions I have found helpful in my own shop. Pegboard and wheels. My whole shop is pegboard walls, and almost all of my large tools are on wheels. One goes against the wall the when I need the other one or just need the space.
The cabinets for the tools are a great idea I am working on a few of them myself.

CtL

-- Chris L. "Don't Dream it, Be it."- PortablePastimes.com (Purveyors of Portable Fun and Fidgets)

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Keen1

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#14 posted 12-04-2007 05:38 PM

I do have one concern about the shelving for the tools. Since my workshop is a basement (that will even get some water on floor during a soaking rain, the humidity to terrible. I bought one small dehumidfier, to place by the power tool bin and the misc. board storage. I’m not it’s going to be enough but thought I would at least try it before buying a $300 dehumidifier. I don’t store a ton of wood. Usually just buy enough for a particular project but will save scraps of nice wood or larger pieces. I’ve also bought a couple of the really small desicant (sp?) canister types to hang on the wall behind where I store plywood and larger peices. I don’t think they will work as I may have to dry them out once a week. But we’ll see. This is another reason, I too like the idea of keeping everything on wheels. The water never gets over 1/4” and it doesn’t last long but I know it’s not good. Mold has never been a problem though as it does dry out fairly quickly. Maybe having the HVAC unit in the same area helps some too. But I have noticed some rust on blades that don’t get used very often. Since then I’ve starting oiling them up before storage and havn’t had the problem since. I guess I should have been doing that all along. Any other tips?

-- Dad to 5, Son of The One

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