Blog for everyone to reply to. Poll for 8/6/08

Yes and no, not yet.

-- My favorite piece is my last one, my best piece is my next one.

Already 3 reads and no responses. No one wants to fess up.

That would be yes 2
No zero to first question

and yes 1
no 1 to second question.

-- What happens in the workshop stays in the workshop. No wait that doesn't sound right. Karson Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com †

Kickback…yes
hurt…no

-- http://www.woodsongsfurniture.com

No and N/A.

But… I am really surprised that it never happened. I did a lot of really stupid things around power tools when I was growing up and didn’t know any better. Nobody taught me when I was young. I did stuff like rip 2×4s without a fence. But I’m talkin’ over ten years ago when I was a dumb kid. (I’m still a kid but hopefully just not quite as dumb.)

-- Check out my new website! http://www.blakeweberwoodworking.com

Kickback = Yes = 3
Hurt = No = 1

However the wood did shoot into the drywall of my garage like a spear… if it had hit me I would have been hurt.

-- Tim D. - Woodstock, GA

yes

no..just missed me.

-- A famous poet once said: “There is a name hidden in the shadow of my soul, the name is wood. Sweet, ever beautiful, earth grown wood. It warms my heart and brings a tear to my eye.”

Yes kickback
Yes to the hurt, but only a slight punch in the gut, where I am admirably padded against injury. The Carhartt’s must have taken the brunt of the force. The offcut on the outside of the blade is what came back.

-- "Bordnerizing" perfectly good lumber for over a decade.

yes I have had a kickback. I dont know where were at for totals. I was hurt. My feelings, pride and solar plexis all bruised. I was cutting a hunk of oak with the fence when I clearly should have been using the miter gauge. It was on one of those 5 horse powermatic beasts at a local cabinet shop. I kid you not, one second i was cutting and another second I was on my back on the floor a few feet from the saw. It knocked the wind out of me and left a three-quarter by six inch bruise across my midsection….hurt like heck!! Never again will I make the same mistake.

-- "That Government is Best that Governs The Least."-Jefferson

Kickback yes.
Was barely hurt once because of it. The piece hit my finger on it’s trip across the room. Was only hurt akin to stubbing a toe.

-- I am always doing what I cannot do yet, in order to learn how to do it. - Pablo Picasso -- http://blanchardcreative.etsy.com -- http://snbcreative.wordpress.com/

Yes, several kickbacks, although until something new comes up, I think I’ve figured out what will cause one.
Yes, to hurt, but not every time. Worse was a blow to the lower abdomen, that I truly feel led to a hernia. Had some damage done by “flying wood” to a shop door.

-- Tim -- http://tmuli.com

Kickbacks =1
Hurt = 0

-- Garyb6, “Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler” - Albert Einstein

Kickbacks = 1 A 24”x24” 3/4” sheet of plywood I was cutting a dato in.
Hurt = 0 Thankfuly

-- Brian, Lebanon PA, If you aren’t having fun doing it, find something else to do.

no kickback
no hurt

Karson- it’d be crazy for everyone to try and keep track of the total numbers as people might post at the same time, and you’ll have multithreading counting going on… and PS- how are you recovering from that kickback?

maybe there should be a way to post a “poll” forum thread for people to vote and have LJ script keep track of numbers… (Martin are you getting this ? or are you still busy with trolly polly?)

-- When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

no, no

-- Rob (A) Waxahachie,TX

Purple man you are an agitator. I appreciate that in people. You want to sell any of your curly Bubinga since you put it in storage.

-- What happens in the workshop stays in the workshop. No wait that doesn't sound right. Karson Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com †

Kickback – yes (using a miter gage and a fence, dumb dumb)
Hurt – no (thank god)

-- Todd, Richfield MN

Kick back = yes
Hurt by table saw kick back = no
Hurt by router table and stupidity = YES

A little twist to the thread but while building the rocking chair in my projects, when I was routing the round mortises the router bit kicked the wood one way and my middle finger ended up in the bit. Nicked off the corner of my finger almost to the bone under the nail. It could have been much worse.

Kick back on my table saw- yes
Hurt- no

-- With God's help all things are possible- even woodworking. Woodworking is not just a hobby, it is an (expletive deleted) expensive hobby.

Yes and minor

-- What do you learn from being right?

Yes a gut shot by oak …..at approx 150 thousand mph HURT!!!!!na felt great….lol

-- Can't never could do anything, to try is to advance.

No kickback via table saw. No injuries from my table saw (the thing has a thirsty soul, and I have a respectable fear of it).

-- Living on the square...

kickback – not that i can remember but i have to say yes at least once

hurt – no

No & No.

-- Bruce from Central New York

1×2

1×2

-- //FC - Round Rock, TX - "Experience is what you get just after you need it"

yes
no

Q

-- I don't make sawdust...I produce vast quantities of "Micro Mulch."

i have yet to experence a good kick back, but i did watch a buddy knock his two front teeth out so that’s enough for me.

-- Roper - Master of sawdust-

I think so

I wasn’t hurt but i broke a tooth on the table saw blade and bent my metal insert.

I was cutting a bevel and the drop piece fell on the blade. The worse part is i knew it was wrong but wanted to see what would happen. Not my best idea. The piece dropped on the blade and then wedged in between the insert and blade. Some how the blade lost a tooth and the metal plate was bent. It was kind of scary. I have retired from the lets see what is going to happen business.

The Freud blade some how still works good. Not as good but I blew it up pretty well. I also learned that trying new things with a new blade is not the best way to break it in.

Karson, just sharing some of my experience, woodworking, computers and all.

I’ll leave you the extra key to the shelter, and if I don’t survive – it’s all yours.

PS. kickback no – but I did attempt to single handedly prevent a 16.5” drill press head from hitting the floor – and succeded (with marks to prove it)

-- When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

Yes
No—- (unless you count my under garments)

-- You can't get a hug from Facebook.

Betsy

I’ve never had the pleasure of counting your under garments.

-- What happens in the workshop stays in the workshop. No wait that doesn't sound right. Karson Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com †

kickback=yes several times
hurt= no, not yet
I’ve had projectiles miss me a couple of times!
I’m still counting my lucky stars!

-- woodbutcher north carolina

Kick back Yes Hurt Just knocked the breath out of me and sore a few days

-- Mike, Bruce Mississippi = Jack of many trades master of none

Yes …. I had kick back

Yes … big purple tit ,,, ouch ! .... still hurts just thinking about it

-- work from your heart and your spirit will live forever

Yes, once. Not hurt, unless you count the stain in my oants as I picked a chunk of wood out of the sheetrock wall 15 feet behind the saw.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

25 years ago new radial arm saw, first time using it. It threw the wood across the room and hit the wall, changed the blade around and it hit me in the gut. Shut it down and went in the house to read the directons.

Kickback – 2

Hurt – damaged ego

-- Ron Central, CA

Very bad Karson!

-- You can't get a hug from Facebook.

Yes and yes (but not as bad as your experience)

Lew

kick back once
injury from said no

-- If we learn from our mistakes, I'm getting a fantastic education.

Kick back = Yes
Hurt = Yes
Smarter = Yes
(Looks like you will have to total these anyway ;-). Thirty years in the computer field and I still can’t increment correctly.)

Have you ever had a kickback. ?

Yes 1

Did you get hurt?
no 0

bob

-- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner

whats the total??? KArson said to add the total as we go…lol…and I just took 3 hours to “another” blog series…so I aint going back to add it up…I will leave that up to the “owner” of this thread—-from the Planet of DELAWARE…is that ok with everyone that Karson is from Delaware…it kinda scares…(dont get mad at me…i just took 3 hours to read another blog—-all about ones ORIGINS…and I am still processing what i NEED to say thus the strange jist here…)

KArson…yo…hope you are doing better…

I had kickback ONCE…and thankfully I was off to the side enough that it did not hit me…but it was all luck…

Yes

No

matt

(okay…no I will head back to that “other” blog and respond…)

-- Matt, Napa, CA...fun is beautiful...just trying to have some fun...

table saw-yes
Router table w/o fence (first time I was using it)-yes

Hurt-just my pride

Tonight I was out in the garage and cutting some second life flooring underlayment that I used previously as shelving. I did not relize that I had apparently tacked it down with 18g brads until my table saw blade hit one, threw it up and it was stuck in my shoulder. Dang that smarted, still sore. And I have a nice little welt with a hole in it.

-- Adrian ..... The 11th Commandment...."Thou Shalt Not Buy A Wobble Dado"

kickback yes
hurt no

Reminders are always a good thing:

-b

kickback once, hurt yes, but not serious.

-- Kevin, Wichita, Kansas

Table saw- no
Planer- Yes
Jointer-Yes

Hurt- 0

Within the first couple weeks of getting my jointer and planer I had a kickback from each, on the jointer it was from tring to joint a peice of wood that was way too small luckly I was smart enough to make sure my had was pushing toward the fence and not the blades. The planer was a simular incident, planing a glued up piece that was on the verge of being to short and got caught funny in the blades and sent a peice fling back out at the speed of light, again even I was luckly standing out of the danger zone.

-- Glenn, New Mexico

yes and no. I was ripping with a radial arm saw and sent a piece of oak through the drywall. Wouldn’t have happened if I had properly adjusted the antii kickback pawls. Had the same thing happen on my table saw. I had removed the anti kickback pawls and spreader because they were thicker than the thin kerf blade I was using. Fortunately I was standing off to the side and no one was behind me. Scared me enough to stop using thin kerf blades on my cabinet maker saw.

I’m a newbie, but because I’m starting as an older person, I am taking a lot of care. So no kickback from the table saw and no injuries. I intend to remain very careful, and to continue to approach the table saw with great respect. I have had kickback on the router table (workpiece went flying, but luckily didn’t hit me) so now I’m approaching the router table with as much or more respect.

-- Nils Davis, Menlo Park, CA

Hey, Karson- Before the report, congrats on the first 45. Good luck on the second 45.

Kickbacks – 3

Hurt – 1 cut but no stitches. When the blade bound up and the maple leg blank to-be came back a carbide tooth tip broke off and grazed the tip of my left thumb. the 8/4 leg blank made a hell of a ding in the cement wall behind me.

-- JWB

Praise the Lord , no and no : )

-- You know you're getting old when you know the difference between you're (you are) and your (belonging to you) AND how to use them in a sentence .

Kickback – 1
hurt – minor

Ripping bamboo flooring on a contractor site table saw, minor cut on my hand. Not sure how it happened, it was so dang fast. I did get to witness a coworker take a table saw fired projectile to the gut once, I remember him explaining how painful it was, and then I got to see the enormous bruise/wound post impact. Yikes!

-- Brian S. --- "If you’ve worked on the building of a boat, it belongs to you the rest of your life." -Bob Prothero

I had a kickback in 1991 2 in a row. 1/4 ply. I worked with a guy that had a kickback. They had to rush him to the Hospital. He was bleeding inside and almost died.

Yes & unfotunately Yes. twice Karson. Last one was a narrow offcut that flew back & hit the family Jewelery @#$#%$%^%^&^^$%$$. The first one was a piece twisting on a small table saw with no guard. It pushed my hand into the saw (a 1/4 inch wide mother). Split one finger down the middle to the bone & gouged a great chunk out of the another one. Had to have a skin graft off my ear to fill the hole. There is a plus though, it’s not very hard now to keep my ear to the ground. LOL

-- Grumpy - "Always look on the bright side of life"- Monty Python

My hand doesn’t plane or saw fast enough to create kickback.

:^)

-- Eric at http://adventuresinwoodworking.com

Yes & Yes. Scary as **, but no serious injury

-- http://www.grandprairiewoodworks.com http://www.etsy.com/shop.php?user_id=6453794

Kickback – Yep
Hurt – Not seriously, just a good kick in the gut (which I’ve been told I need from time to time)

Oh Eric, if you haven’t had kickback with your saw then you’re not trying hard enough. I remember as a younger man I was sawing through a board and the hand I was using to hold it in place slipped. And, being in a ‘rhythm’ the board with the saw in it popped up and smacked me on the forehead. Yes, there’s even danger in hand tools.

-- When you give someone a chance it may well be their last.

Yes and no. I was in a hurry and didn’t use my zero clearence insert on the table saw. I shut down and replaced the insert.

-- Jerry Miller

Kickback yes, injury no (Thanks be to God).

No kickback, injured in other ways by other things though.

-- Rich, WNY, www.nyrockingchairs.com

number of kickbacks = 100 or more (quit counting)

hurt…...........Not yet

-- http://www.furnituremann.ca/

Yes
No

-- Growing older but not up!

Kick back – Yes, yes, yes

Hurt – major bruising, no, no

-- last night I played a blank tape at full volume - the mime next door went nuts!

Kick Back-yes- twice
Hurt- once pretty good by table saw- I never seen my swell up like that. Got it checked out turned out to be major bruising. I was grabbing the push stick when it let loose so I would get the fingers! Get hurt doing somthing right!!

-- Frank O, Croydon, Pa

I’ve had two encounters with kickback that I can think of, no serious damage on either.
recently on the table saw, I got hit in the belly and that bit of extra weight my doctor complains about took the hit well!
a while ago on the jointer, I tried to run a much too small piece through. still thankful today I have all the digits in place!

-- www.darrylmasterson.com ~ www.darrylmasterson.etsy.com

Kickback – yes
Hurt – No

-- Brian's Table Top Toys http://home.mountaincable.net/~bgraham/

kickback – Yes
hurt – Only my pride!

Kick backs- at least 5 on TS, 1 on shaper,

Hurt twice

I’m counting 48 people who have experienced a kickback. 14 injuries (not counting multiples)

29.16% of kickbacks result in injury to Lumberjocks.

Statistically, you are more likely to remain uninjured in a 30mph (50 km/h) car accident, not wearing a seat belt then you are to remain uninjured in a kick back. Hmmmmm

It’s early, and I have a 5 week old baby at home, so I could be off.

-- The only easy wood project is a fire

Kickback..yes once..luckily, because I was taught well I was standing in the right position and the board went flying past me and hit the wall!

-- David, South Windsor, CT "I love the smell of sawdust in the morning"

Yes. On an open (square holes in the extensions) table contractor saw. I was cutting dados. The board kicked back. I was able to hold on to it…but my thumb slipped into one of the holes in the process. Smashed it big time. Lost the thumbnail later and it never grew back right.

-- Urban logger, http://nelsonwoodworks.biz/

Kickback yes,
Hurt no, but a hole in the door forever.

It is refreshing to read all these reports of kickback (which really kicks!) and mostly just bruising. I hope someone else does not make us answer a poll about chainsaws.

-- Stevethepeeve -- I'm no rocket surgeon

I have had 1000,s of kickbacks cutting branches with a mitre saw
Been hurt 0 times so far .

-- John in Belgrave ,(Slideshow ) http://cid-69bce320c6d8b119.skydrive.live.com/play.aspx/Extreme%20Birdhouses/P1030026.JPG?ref=2 (Website) http://www.extremebirdhouse.com

yea, ive had it. but not bad enough to get hurt. yet…

-- Nick, Maine; www.nwbwoodworks.com

Kickback, Yes x3
Hurt, only once.

The first stuck a piece of wood in the wall off a tablesaw.

The second was dumbness on my part. I reached around the back of the tablesaw and grabbed the 15 inch piece that I was ripping at 45 degrees with my hand. I pinched the blade and it pulled my hand right into the blade. Cut the end of my right middle finger pretty bad, but didn’t lose any length or feeling.

The third was just recently. I was ripping a small piece of plywood without a fence, trying to do it in a hurry. It bound and hit me in the gut. No injuries…. luckily.

-- As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another. (Proverbs 27:17) †

Kickback-Yes, several times.

Hurt? Not yet, thankfully. Been scared though. Really wakes you up.

-- Bob Vila would be so proud of you!

Kickback-Yes,

Hurt? Yes, hurt like a #^&.

Lee

-- by Lee A. Jesberger http://www.prowoodworkingtips.com http://www.ezee-feed.com

I once had an 8 inch square of 1/8” plywood frisbee across the basement and knock over a chair behind me. The blade left a semi-circle in the plywood that illustrated pretty nicely how that sort of kickback works.

Kickback Hurt
yes no
yes yes
yes no

-- Andy Stark

Yes, I have had two of them happen to me. Luckily I was not on the receiving end of the projectile that slammed into a cement block wall. I was still able to use the part I was cutting out both times but it did show the blade marks and bruises after hitting that wall. What I could not believe is how fast that 1/2 inch plywood flew. Could have easily broke some ribs or even worst. Since I am not a carpenter and wasn’t sure why this happened I was even more careful. Oh well, I will stick to my high voltage stuff where I feel more comfortable. :)

-- Rich, Nevada,

I talked to a couple friends and they let me post his kickback history:
Relative newbie:
Kickback = yes, once
Injury = Tip of middle finger cut off to 2nd knuckle.

Cabinet maker for 40+ years:
Kickback = yes
Final injury = removed thumb and index finger of right hand completely.

-- Rich, WNY, www.nyrockingchairs.com

TS kickback twice. One seven inch sliver threaded my hand and bled like crazy – no stitches just a reminder how stupid I can be – now use a jig for slicing edging. Second time a punch in the gut – deep bruise healed slowly to remind me again of my stupidity, lest I forget. The upside is these little reminders tend to keep us humble. BTW I have followed hobby shop accidents through my 30 year affiliation wth clubs and suggest that most who suffer shop injuries are experienced and know better.

-- Phil in British Columbia

TS kickback twice, and one BIG OLE bruise on my belly

-- Grant...."GO BUCKEYES"

Yes I’ve had a couple of minor kick backs.

No, I haven’t gotten hurt. I agree with Lee about the importance of a splitter. I’ll be reattaching mine before I use it again.

I would add that it’s probably even MORE important for the lower end table saws, like my table top DELTA. Since in many cases the blade isn’t perfectly square to the throat.

-- When my wife ask's what I have to show for my wood working hobby, I just show her the splinters.

I appreciate all of the true comments.

129 reads 32 comments. so not everyone wishes to participate in the poll. But each of us comming back to view the responses also run up the read count. So it’s not bad.

-- What happens in the workshop stays in the workshop. No wait that doesn't sound right. Karson Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com †

Steve the peeve: the chainsaw question will be posted on the “LumberJack” site.

-- What happens in the workshop stays in the workshop. No wait that doesn't sound right. Karson Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com †

Kickback from TS—-many
Injury—-one enough to go to emergency, the rest no

-- robbi-Yadahooty!

Kick back= yes = 1
Hurt = yes= 1

There were a couple of mistakes. First one was I had taken a dado set out of the saw and put that plate back over the thin kerf blade. What was I thinking. The part that I was cutting shot out of the saw and hit me below the belt the other piece was lodged in the ceiling. When I return to school I will get a picture of that baby.

-- Something that goes unnoticed will never be remembered.

Kick back = Yes

Hurt = no, it missed me!

-- -** You are never to old to set another goal or to dream a new dream ****************** Dick, & Barb Cain, Hibbing, MN. http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/gallery/member.php?uid=3627&protype=1

Kickback – Yes
Hurt – No, I sidestepped it and it was heavy enough it didn’t go off the table

Also had an RAS climb a board at me when I was cutting too quickly, but as one should always do, I was fully out of the path of the cut.

-- Dylan Vanderhoof - New woodworker in training. =)

Kick back yes twice in over 20 years not bad…hurt only drywall and pride…great survey thanks.

yes and yes… still trying to catch my breath. OUCH!

-- making sawdust....

Yes
No injury

Slight pain but kept working

-- Gary, East TX -- The longest journey begins with a single step.

Yes
no injury.
I would think if you have ever used a router in a table or a table saw this could happen at any time.

-- Davesfunwoodworking

kickback- YES
hurt-YES in the forehead just above my eye

-- Greg, Pennsylvania

Yes, no.

Thin piece, and I was standing too the side (where Mr Tolpin says I should. The wood sprang.

That would be twice that I used the saw without the blade guard – the first time, and then of course the last time.

In my defense, it took me awhile to realize that I could use a piece of oak lower than the work piece as an auxiliary sliding fence, enabling me to get the guard and pawls in place.

Yes to kickback. No to injury.

Luckily I seem to cause more harm to myself with handtools them the big power tools. And usually then its just skinned knuckles or a small little cut.

Stay safe everyone!

Table saw – yes x 2
routertable – yes
belt sander – yes

only a minor injury on the table saw – nicely cracked rib on the first one.

Second was while I was cutting a dado, I too almost soiled myself. I got about half way through the cut and knew something bad was about to happen. Before I could lift my knee and hit the cut off switch, the board too a twist and lauched itself across the shop and left a nice dent in the metal door. my hand came to rest about 1” from the blade.

Not sure if this is a kick back or not. On the router table, I had a piece of maple explode on me…thank God I was wearing my eye protection. It trashed a nice pair of safety glasses. I’ll count it as 1/2

I got a nice gut punch when the piece i was working on worked its way over the stop on the bench and came back at me. Hit me right in the belly button. (not a small target as you would suppose.)

Kick backs 3 1/2
injuries 1

-- Greg - Charles Town, WV

1,0

-- Chris

At this point I’m 0 and 0. Don’t know the current totals.

Yes=2,
hurt=1 minor

-- Bob K. East Northport, NY

yes
no

-- Making sawdust is what I do best

Well I guess I’ll have to find time to summarize the best I can.

But 466 reads and 102 comments. That think thats a good representation of the active Jocks.

-- What happens in the workshop stays in the workshop. No wait that doesn't sound right. Karson Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com †

Yes
No

I have actually done more damage to myself with hand tools.

-- The significant problems we face cannot be solved by the same level of thinking that created them

Yes
Yes

Luckaly it was on a weak tablesaw (the one nice thing about universal motor saws). and it just hurt for a bit, no brusing or real injury.

forgot to mention kick backs on sanders … never got hurt , but damaged my projects. One totally destroyed.

-- work from your heart and your spirit will live forever

RAS set up to rip – 2 times
Knocked on my ass and purple arms and stomach for a week. Hurt like h*

TS x1 put a hole in the blinds on the door.
I’ve learned to stay from behind the wood. And mostly use a push stick on the inside piece.

Lee

-- No piece is cut too short. It was meant for a smaller project.

Kickback 1
Injuries from said kickback 0

-- "You get what you inspect, not what you expect"

Nope.

-- -John "Do I have to keep typing a smiley? Just assume it's a joke." www.flickr.com/photos/gizmodyne

Yes and no(by pure luck, not by being smart). I did chop my finger with a miter router bit. My middle finger is shorter by 1/8”.

-- Zipsss

No kick back and thus no injury.

-- ...it's rennovation time!!!

Kickback 1
injury no

I was really new and stupidly cutting a bevel off a top with the blade tilted into the fence. The triangle was trapped under the blade, came flying out at the speed of light after it was fully detached, through the back of the cabinet i was building and over the house next door. Landed in the back yard. I was standing to the side. I used the hole in the cabinet for “Cable Management”

-- Scott - Chico California http://chicowoodnut.home.comcast.net

Yes and yes.

I had taped (with blue painters tape) ,two plastic push stick together. The sticks were 1/8” thick, 1 1/2” wide and 10” long. These came with the bow feather board. I taped two together since they were so thin to begin with. The tape was wrapped around several times in a spiral fashion. I had made a successful cut and then tried to push the “cut off” to the side. THAT was the mistake. The push stick hit the blade and I felt the plastic dig into my palm. The cut was only 1/4” deep. I looked behind me and the two pieces had separated and both were about 15 feet behind me in the driveway. One went out each garage door!

-- Bob A in NJ

Kickback 1
Hurt 0

It was scary! The piece of wood shot the length of the garage and shattered the front panel of the trash compacter.

-- Rich, Seattle, WA

OK, I read… now I gotta reply…

Kickback – Yes
Hurt – No… although the 3/4×3/4×10” piece of MDF did a number on my pegboard, bounced off and hit my tool chest with enough force to cut a 1/4” gouge into it.

Having read enough about kickbacks, I’m wary enough of my table saw to ALWAYS stand out of the path of any possible projectiles!

-- Ryno

i m not sure of the exact numbers as its been a lot of years ill take my best guess

kickbacks … 12

hurt ….... 7

bad enuff to go to the dr. or hospital ….. 0

bad enuff to hop around cussing and throwing a fit …... 7

kickbacks….yes, several
hurt…........never serious

avoidable….absolutely…Haste does make waste and hurts too.

-- Making Sawdust Safely

Yes, a couple

Not hurt, but did manage a nasty bruise and invented a new cuss word.

-- “I'm thinking about it, ... I'm thinking it's the best way to piss [the French] off.” -Lance Armstrong