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Using Rivets to fix a band clamp

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Blog entry by Karson posted 07-11-2008 04:55 AM 2109 reads 0 times favorited 13 comments Add to Favorites Watch

I ordered a band clamp from Grizzly to match the one that I received when I got my replacement parts for my Dust Collector. I made a mistake the clamp was too long by about 1 in.

The revision blog

So I decided to fix it.

The Grizzly band in action. From their web site.

The one that I ordered had a spring clamp arangement and the one that I had, had a bolt that you tightened up with a screwdriver each time you took off the bag. I was going for easy of use.

What are rivets.
The common ones now are Pop Rivets, pieces of Alumimum that are inserted with a tool but they leave the back very rough. I was looking for something smoother.

My tool boxes had these.

The regular rivets and tinners rivets and burrs. All of mine were copper. They also make them in steel.

The differences are rivets are shaped like a flat head screw, thicker in the center and tapering to a thin edge. Regular rivets would be used for something like riveting a belt, where the thin edge is flush with the surface and the thick part compresses the leather at the hole.

A tinners rivet are used to join two pieces of metal together. The head is shaped like a nail, thick all the way through. The backing plates are called burrs.

Regular rivets are classified like screws #8, #9 and length etc.
Tinners rivets are classified as the weight of 1000 pieces. so 3lb means that 1000 rivets weight 3 lbs.

The length of a rivets when installed should be 1.5X the thickness of the materials being joined. So if the material is 1/8” then the rivet should be 3/16”. In my case I used a burr on the out side and so I used the “M” 3 lb tinners rivet.

I ground the old rivets off that was holding and measured the hole size and the length that I needed. All of the rivets were long so i use a burr plate to increase my thickness.

I used a hammer that you have all probably seen, but didn’t have any idea what it was for. It’s a Ball Peen hammer.

It’s designed to pound over rivets.

I used a 1/2” steel rod in the vise as my anvil to hold the top of the rivet tight in place.

I hammered (peened) the rivet tight to the bracket.

I had the air conditioning on in the shop and I need to open the 14’ door to get to the dust collector, so tomorrow morning I’ll install it or find out if it’s still the wrong size.

(Next day) It was the wrong size. Had to move the bracket another 1”.

-- I've been blessed with a father who liked to tinker in wood, and a wife who lets me tinker in wood. Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com †



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#1 posted 07-11-2008 04:59 AM

Thanks for the tip!!!

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#2 posted 07-11-2008 05:07 AM

Riveting!

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#3 posted 07-11-2008 05:11 AM

nice work … well done posting

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#4 posted 07-11-2008 05:16 AM

Back when I bought the same bands from grizzly they were too big for my collector. I did the same thing except I cut the band in the middle. Then I hooked it in the first position and wraped it around the drum and marked the length where they overlapped. Then I drilled two holed and used regular steel pop rivits to hold it together.

Then I got the canister filter and I haven’t looked back.

-- Gary - Never pass up the opportunity to make a mistake look like you planned it that way - Tyler, TX

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#5 posted 07-11-2008 05:36 AM

Good Job Karson!

Lee

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#6 posted 07-11-2008 06:36 AM

Thanks Guys. So how much did you shorten the band gary. I’m is about an inch.

My canister is working great.

-- I've been blessed with a father who liked to tinker in wood, and a wife who lets me tinker in wood. Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com †

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#7 posted 07-11-2008 07:05 AM

Thanks Karson.

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#8 posted 07-11-2008 10:15 AM

Great job!

Thanks for the post

Callum

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#9 posted 07-11-2008 01:58 PM

Way to go Karson.
That’s thinking on your feet!

Bob

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#10 posted 07-11-2008 04:36 PM

Thanks, Karson.

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#11 posted 07-11-2008 10:37 PM

Another example of measure twice and rivet once. I had to grind the new rivets off and move the bracket another inch. It now fits tight.

-- I've been blessed with a father who liked to tinker in wood, and a wife who lets me tinker in wood. Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com †

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#12 posted 07-11-2008 11:44 PM

Good for you Karson.

-- Grumpy - "Always look on the bright side of life"- Monty Python

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#13 posted 07-12-2008 06:51 AM

Karson

Without digging it out of the junk pile I think it was overlapped about 2 inches.

Those copper rivets look pretty cool!

-- Gary - Never pass up the opportunity to make a mistake look like you planned it that way - Tyler, TX

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