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Blog entry by JoshO posted 08-10-2009 10:16 AM 1102 reads 0 times favorited 6 comments Add to Favorites Watch

I am really looking forward to possible overtime this fall. I am going to make a new table saw purchase as soon as possible with these funds.
As I am shopping grizzly and comparing models, why would I pay $150 more for a hybrid (G0478) over the contractor (G0661) when the contractor has just as much HP, 1/8 inch more ripping capacity at 90deg, 6 inches more on the fence capacity totalling 36 inches?

Would some explain to me why the hybrid is more and if it would be worth it?

Also, would I be better off moving my T2 fence system over to the new saw in place of the facotry model that comes with grizzly?

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jake

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#1 posted 08-10-2009 11:43 AM

Hi Josh, even hybrids vary. The biggest difference is the motor is not hanging out the back (nice if you add an outfeed table) and the cabinet is enclosed (better dust collection). Steel City and Craftsman (made by a division of Steel City) are the truest hybrids, as the trunions are beefy and mounted to the cabinet. The closer to a cabinet saw the better according to many, as the adjustments are easier. The trunions are then mounted to the cabinet and the table easily moves for fine adjustments as the trunions are not hanging off of them. In most hybrids the trunions hang off the table, like the contractor saws. That set up is compact and usually a little lighter if you are moving it much. With larger the trunions, you get mass making the machine smooth, strength and precision. This is important if you do fine work. All machines can be adjusted, but ease of adjustment is a factor. I have a Steel City hybrid, and love it. Quiet, powerful, easy to operate, less mess with the cabinet for collection and I did add an outfeed table for large sheet goods, as I make furniture and use a lot of oak plywood. The grizzly has gotten good reviews and is generally listed as a best buy in the trade magazines who have tested it. I would urge you to get the hybrid, as I started with a smaller saw and within a year and half was looking at the new saw and took a big hit when I sold the first saw. The positive reviews in the trades magazines wouldnt give the Grizzly a best buy if it had a poor fence, so I think it comes with a decent one. The new Ridgid table saw (special order at most stores) looks to be a good value and a possible product of Steel City (most parts look exactly like mine and most saws come out only a few factories in China). I wish the granite top was out when I bought mine. I have an unheated shop, and live in a damp climate, so the cast iron top is constant work to keep free from rust. Good luck and I am sure you will make a good decision, you will probably get many posts to consider before making the purchase.

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cabinetmaster

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#2 posted 08-10-2009 12:33 PM

I have to agree with what Jake has said. Grizzly is my selection anytime for a major piece of equipment. I don’t think you will have any problem with the fence either.

-- Jerry--A man can never have enough tools or clamps

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Cato

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#3 posted 08-10-2009 01:08 PM

Hey Josh,
I upgraded from a contractor style saw and I am really pleased with the cabinet style design on the hybrids. The beefier and cabinet mounted trunnions as the others have said makes adjustments much easier. Storage when not in use, it will wheel flat against the wall, and the dust collection into the cabinet instead of ejecting all over the shop is great. Well worth the extra bit in cost over the long run.

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BarryW

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#4 posted 08-10-2009 04:34 PM

Comfort. What makes YOU comfortable. Ok, you want a bigger, more powerful saw….but it seems like you’ve become comfortable with one system you have. You can look at it two ways…either you should break out of your comfort zone and try something new…or you should stay in a comfortable place and produce the results you’ve always expected…those two ways to look at it. If it were my choice….I’d want to move out of my comfort zone and give my brain an extension as well…but that’s me. If I’m going to spend alot of money…and remember it’s only dirty paper, you can always get more….if by spending a little extra you upgrade to something with a fair number of advantages, then spend the money. I’ve got equipment in my garage that I spend alot of money on when I had the money…but I use the equipment little…but I know a time is coming when I’ll use it alot. Does that make sense?

-- /\/\/\ BarryW /\/\/\ Stay so busy you don't have time to die.

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dpjeansonne

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#5 posted 08-10-2009 04:46 PM

These comments are right on track. I have the Craftsman 22124 hybrid amde by Orion owned by Steel City. The saw is a a duplicate of the Steel City hybrid but with a Biesemeyer fence which I feel is the standard that all fences are compared to.
The saw has 2 cast iron extensions making the total saw weigh in about 425 lbs. This mass make it very stable and perform very well. It will cut 31 inches plus wide and has left tilt which I think is safer.
I think the hybrid is a good step up in quality with the cabinet mounted trunnions and heavy mass from a contractor model.
All that said you still can build great projects with a contractor saw. The person makes the difference.

-- Cajun Don, Louisiana

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JoshO

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#6 posted 08-11-2009 03:48 AM

Well I am considering the upgrade because I have a craftsman flexdrive with 1-1/16hp motor. The motor is already underpowered, and with the drive train, that small amount of power isn’t getting to the blade. I don’t know how much I need yet, and I suspect maybe 2hp is enough for my purposes.
I think I may just go with the hybrid.

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