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Blog entry by JoshO posted 1816 days ago 883 reads 0 times favorited 13 comments Add to Favorites Watch

Don’t ya just love it? I found a delta 31-695 sander at * for $90 less than MSRP only to bring it home to find out it was a discontinued product. It was a 48×6 with 9in disc for $209. It was am impulse buy . . . . I was weak.

I hope it treats me well.

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Don K.

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#1 posted 1816 days ago

It’s still a good sander…...Should give you plenty of service…. Delta is dropping LOTS of their tools since Black & Decker bought them out. From what I hear…they are only going to carry their higher end tools like the unisaw…..and a bunch of low end stuff

-- Don S.E. OK

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JoshO

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#2 posted 1815 days ago

Black and Decker bought out Delta? Is that a good thing or bad thing?

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Don K.

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#3 posted 1815 days ago

Well….IMO…it’s a bad thing.

Years ago B&D was a great tool company…now they are a strictly low end company. Since they bought out Delta/Porter Cable AND Dewalt…they have cut out tons of Delta tools….and I have been noticing several post/topics here and on other woodworking forums say the quality is starting to drop on the others.

As I said…from what I hear…they are dropping most of the mid range stuff that woodworkers buy…keeping only the high end stuff like the Unisaws…and everything else is aimed at the weekend DIY people at the box stores and Walmart.

The ONE good thing in all of this is…for a short time you can pick up some great deals at the big box stores because of all the discontinued tools….there was a post here a few weeks ago that said Lowe’s was selling off all the discontinued delta dust collectors for $99 for a one day sale.

-- Don S.E. OK

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Sawdust2

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#4 posted 1815 days ago

So what’s the problem? I’ve had one of those for years and it works fine.
I did have to take it apart once because the motor had not been properly attached at the factory, or maybe just that a bolt was loose and worked it’s way out, but it only took about an hour to fix and no problems since.
It’s a simple machine with not a lot that can go wrong.

Lee

-- No piece is cut too short. It was meant for a smaller project.

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Sawdust2

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#5 posted 1815 days ago

So what’s the problem? I’ve had one of those for years and it works fine.
I did have to take it apart once because the motor had not been properly attached at the factory, or maybe just that a bolt was loose and worked it’s way out, but it only took about an hour to fix and no problems since.
It’s a simple machine with not a lot that can go wrong.

I had to go back and check. Porter Cable bought Delta, NOT Black & Decker. My experience with B&D has not been good. My experience with PC and Delta has been great.

Lee

-- No piece is cut too short. It was meant for a smaller project.

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tooldad

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#6 posted 1815 days ago

dewalt has owned B&D for a long time. It is all under one corp. Now in the past couple of years, they have bought the Delta/pc line. Just like the Ryobi-Ridgid-Milwaukee is all the same corp. Dewalt is keeping Dewalt as the top of the line, the PC as the homeowner grade, and the B&D as the walmart/cheap grade. Being a shop teacher I get to talk alot with reps from tool companies. They used to give me demo tools when the new models came out, then it changed to I was the first to have the chance to buy them, even cheaper than what they would clearance for. Now they have limited tool trailers and only hit the high volume stores. Economy affects everyone including schools.

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JoshO

48 posts in 1997 days


#7 posted 1815 days ago

I was starting to breathe a sigh of relief thinking BD didn’t own Delta and all our other favorites until I read this: Look at bottom for 2004: http://www.blackanddecker.com/CustomerCenter/Company-Information.aspx

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JoshO

48 posts in 1997 days


#8 posted 1815 days ago

I understand that everyone has their top of the line and low end products, but when their best hasn’t ever been good enough . . . . . . It is just a disappointment.

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Don K.

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#9 posted 1815 days ago

Well….like I said…at one time…when entry level tools were still good quality…they were a GREAT tool Co., my dad has several B&D tools from “Back in the day” that still work great, ALL metal…no plastic, metal casing, metal gears (Imagine that…metal gears lol).....but those days are long gone.

It’s all about selling the cheapest junk for the most profit anymore…..many of the Good tool brands are sadly following this same formula now…there is more profit in the DIY market, tools for people who will only use the tool once or twice around the house and not try and make a living with them. And while already said…every company (well many anyways) have their version of a “Higher end” tool….the consumer has to really shop around to find a decent quality tool anymore.

The sander you got is actually a good sander….just happens to be one of the tools that B&D is dropping. When my town finally got a Lowe’s…they carried a full line of mid-range Delta tools…Now ??? When was the last time you saw a Lowe’s carry a Delta Jointer, Dust collector etc etc etc. While you can still find these at many lowes…they are down to what they have on hand…and are not replacing them. At least that is what my local Lowe’s is telling me.

-- Don S.E. OK

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lightweightladylefty

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#10 posted 1815 days ago

Who says B&D isn’t a great company?!? We’re not so sure about their woodworking tools, but they’re great for customer service on appliances . . . none of them ever work but we’ve got a lifetime supply. When the toaster oven quit, we called, sent in the cord, and received FOUR in return. After the second one arrived, we called to let them know of their error, but that seemed to generate another piece of paperwork which sent out two more, so we quit complaining and kept them. Then when we complained that the coffee pot (a gift) was designed so poorly that it wouldn’t pour coffee, they sent us another one just like it. We complained again and were sent an interim one until the new model came out. When the new model came out we got TWO more. (The last two haven’t been tried yet, but they already had a recall and sent new parts for them.)

So who says B&D isn’t a great company!! ;-)

In the future, don’t just throw away your B&D tool because it doesn’t work. Complain to them and get FOUR more that don’t work either!!

-- Jesus is the ONLY reason for ANY season.

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Don K.

1075 posts in 1922 days


#11 posted 1815 days ago

So who says B&D isn’t a great company!! ;-)
In the future, don’t just throw away your B&D tool because it doesn’t work. Complain to them and get FOUR more that don’t work either!!

LOL…I darn near dropped my pop when I read this. I thought I was about to get chewed out…lol

-- Don S.E. OK

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JoshO

48 posts in 1997 days


#12 posted 1814 days ago

LOL – That’s awesome!

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JoshO

48 posts in 1997 days


#13 posted 1814 days ago

I know it is off topic, but I didn’t see the need for a new blog entry. This friday I am
securing a deal with a local guy that is selling 300 bd ft of quarter sawn oak maple
and walnut for $600. It is rough cut 1x’s up to 16 inches wide and 12ft long. I am
pretty excited about it, and hope I am getting as good as a deal as I think I am.

-- What do you mean it's square? How did that happen?

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