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First Impressions Review #1: Doweling Machine Review (909 Power Tools)

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Blog entry by JordsWoodShop posted 802 days ago 4655 reads 0 times favorited 4 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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In this video I show you the newest tool in my shop, the 909 Doweling machine.

Note: Since Uploading this video its been pointed out that Triton and Frued both make variations of this machine.

-- Jordan - http://www.jordswoodshop.com



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steliart

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#1 posted 802 days ago

Very nice and informative video Jord.
Personally I wouldn’t go for this machine as it’s not a strong joining system, but it looks fine for what is suppose to do. I think I will wait for a better system to come out that is equal to the domino or I would go with the Beadlock system which allows you to create at least a mach stronger mortise and loose tenon joint… just my 2 cents opinion :)
Thanks for the GR8 video mate, keep it up

-- Stelios L.A. Stavrinides: - I am not so rich to buy cheap tools, but... necessity is the mother of inventions - http://www.steliart.com --

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JordsWoodShop

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#2 posted 802 days ago

I totally agree with you, Dowel joinery has got its place, but when it comes down to strength there is just no competition between dowels and mortise and tenons, whether it be loose tenon or traditional. But for the applications when dowel joinery is suited this machine is certainly a handy tool to have on hand.

-- Jordan - http://www.jordswoodshop.com

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Moron

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#3 posted 801 days ago

it took almost 2 minutes to just open the box. It’s kinda like being told to “listen to me read the instruction manual” read to me by an x wife, and she doesnt know how to light the BBQ, let alone build it so maybe……….skip the gift unwrapping scene cause no one cares.

Parts, were not badly done

Cheers

-- "Good artists borrow, great artists steal”…..Picasso

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oluf

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#4 posted 801 days ago

As a major user of dowel joinery I have a few comments. First of all I can understand that the use of dowels is not too popular due mainly to the lack of good tooling to make it possible to get very accurate hole alignment. I am very fortunate in that regard since I own a antique Rogers horizontal bore doweling machine. The accuracy of the Rogers allows me to get edge to edge glue ups that are within .001” to.003” flush on the face side. The same accuracy can me maintained on face frames if you chose to use dowels for this. I do a lot of face frames with dowels and I have never had a weakness failure.
I purchase my fluted dowels in 1000 piece lots on line. I have four dust collector dowel jigs that I bought and tried to use before I was lucky enough to find the Rogers at an auction for $10.00. The problem with most of the dowel jigs is that they try to reference the hole on the center line of the stock. You need to reference from your face side. I still do use the marking plugs for locating mating dowel holes on things that will not fit on my doweling machine. I put lots of dowels along the edges of all my panel glue ups. This is not for strength. I don’t think you need anything but good glue for strength. I use the dowels ( that fit tight in the holes ) for alignment. Good alignment saves hours in scraping, planning, and sanding. The same is true of face frames, however the dowels do ad to the strength of an otherwise week joint. I have a good biscuit jointer and it has some uses, but I found that the loose fitting biscuits did a poor job of alignment on most flush joints. As I see it the issues with dowel use have more to do with getting dowel holes located and aligned than the relative strength of the joinery. I liked the vedio. I think this tool could do a very good job of giving you fast accurate and quality projects.

-- Nils, So. Central MI. Wood is honest.Take the effort to understand what it has to tell you before you try to change it.

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