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Princess Daybed for Daughter #2: Drafting my plans - taking shape!

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Blog entry by JohnMcClure posted 07-03-2018 03:47 PM 374 reads 0 times favorited 8 comments Add to Favorites Watch
« Part 1: Design and Planning Part 2 of Princess Daybed for Daughter series Part 3: Stock prep and mortising »

Moving right along:

I’ve drawn my vision in AutoCAD. I made a lot of snap judgments about dimensions and proportions, which may need to be revised.

I chose an overall height of 48”, which may be too high. Mattress height of 20”, with 12.25” clearance underneath – I think that’s about right.

3×3 (actual) post size.

4” wide and 1.5” thick for the bottom rails, except the front rail which will be only 0.75” thick (less likely to smash a shin on it climbing into bed).
The upper (curved) rails may be 1.5” thick, but 3” to match the posts may look better… not sure. Would love to hear suggestions. Right now I have them 3” wide; 4” may look better but might look too heavy.

This will be painted, so SYP/Doug Fir is the lumber of choice (1/2” plywood panels, of course).
That means the top curved rail can be cut from a single 2×8 (that’s going to be fun…) and the side rails from 2×8 as well. If I make those curved rails 4” wide, I’ll need to use 2×10 or laminate something, which would be tough…

Another arbitrary design choice is the height of the front posts, and thus the shape of the curved rails on the sides/ends. I have them about 13” lower than the back posts… is there a proportional design rule that applies here?

Cutting the trim pieces will also be interesting. I can make the M on the scroll saw and round over the edges; and probably cut the circle and curved and straight trim pieces from clear pine on the bandsaw, then roundover to make it half-round. I’m thinking 0.5” wide for all that trim.
Maybe I’ll look at the bendable polysomething trim John Smith suggested – that could save some trouble. Might be more fun and cheaper just to cut my own though.

Comments and suggestions welcome! Before I do something dumb!
Thanks!

-- I'd rather be a hammer than a nail



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JohnMcClure

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#1 posted 07-03-2018 05:26 PM

Thinking about mortising the rails into the posts, I am not too happy with the short tenon I’d have if the rails are centered on the posts.
I think goldilocks for me is the botom left; what do y’all think?

Maybe I’m overthinking this?
A big concern is that the end panels need to be removable from the sideboard, to fit through a door. So I need enough mortise to be stable without being glued, using a pin or dowel or fastener to secure it. The 1.75” long tenon may be enough… or maybe there’s a better way.

-- I'd rather be a hammer than a nail

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#2 posted 07-03-2018 08:05 PM

I’d choose the same one – lower left.

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#3 posted 07-03-2018 10:16 PM

I found this picture that is fairly close to what I’m making.

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#4 posted 07-03-2018 11:33 PM


I found this picture that is fairly close to what I m making.

- JohnMcClure

That’ll be really nice. It looks like you can fit some drawers underneath for extra storage. That sure comes in handy with kids.

-- Half of what we read or hear about finishing is right. We just don’t know which half! — Bob Flexner

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#5 posted 07-04-2018 02:42 PM

If painting this project, suggest you consider using MDF instead of plywood for the side panels and “headboard” panel. It is much easer to get a good smooth paint job on MDF than it is on plywood…

Good Luck!!!

Be Careful!!!

Herb

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#6 posted 07-05-2018 12:35 PM

John – I have made two bed frames and found through those projects
that it is a good idea to purchase the mattress you want to use and have it on hand
to get your final measurements. even though the mattress sizes are “standard”, there can
still be enough difference in the size that could make your project look less than perfect.

.

-- Graduated Valedictorian from the University of HardKnocks --

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#7 posted 07-05-2018 02:40 PM


That ll be really nice. It looks like you can fit some drawers underneath for extra storage. That sure comes in handy with kids.
- Rich


Thanks Rich,
My wife saw that and started talking about adding drawers! I think I’ll go with two drawer-sized boxes, on sliders, that can be build after the bed is in use.


If painting this project, suggest you consider using MDF instead of plywood for the side panels and “headboard” panel. It is much easer to get a good smooth paint job on MDF than it is on plywood…
- HerbC

Thank Herb, I’ve heard that before. I will take your suggestion and go with 1/2 MDF instead of plywood.


John – I have made two bed frames and found through those projects
that it is a good idea to purchase the mattress you want to use and have it on hand
to get your final measurements. even though the mattress sizes are “standard”, there can
still be enough difference in the size that could make your project look less than perfect.


Thanks John. The mattress will be delivered today or tomorrow, so I can verify before laying out cuts. I was thinking I’d space the rails 1” wider than the mattress, what do you think? More snug?

-- I'd rather be a hammer than a nail

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#8 posted 07-05-2018 03:33 PM

the first bed I made, “assuming” the standard full size mattress, it was 2”
all the way around too small for the frame I made.
the second bed I had the mattress on hand and made it 1” space all the way around
and it works for me. others may have different opinions on this question.
check the bed you have now – what is the space there and are you content with it.

.

-- Graduated Valedictorian from the University of HardKnocks --

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