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Grinder Sculpting #2: design and layout

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Blog entry by JoeyG posted 12-18-2011 07:46 PM 2087 reads 8 times favorited 16 comments Add to Favorites Watch
« Part 1: the box Part 2 of Grinder Sculpting series Part 3: setting the handle and lid »

First lets start with the work horses. I picked these up at Klingspore. It’s my local woodworking shop but I have also gotten them from the box stores. These are 50 and 80 grit. I will use the 80 on this project. The mahogany should be soft enough for it. I want to do one in purpleheart soon so I picked up the 50. If you haven’t worked with purpleheart, it is one hard wood, but that is a blog for another time. LOL.

Here you see that I laid out a simple grid pattern over each side of the box. I found the center, then used the width of my square blade to mark the lines. I was only trying to give myself reference points for the lay out.

I did a quick sketch on paper to get an idea of what I wanted it to look like. I just view the sketch and realized I also used it to take notes on, so I will not post that. LOL If anyone would like to see it, I will take another picture of it, with the notes cover. Telephone rings and you have to write on what ever is handy.

OK, so I have an idea of how I want it to look, I have the grid laid out, now it is time to pull out the french curves. I used them because it is hard to draw a smooth curve by hand.

After getting the general idea on the box, I went back and adjusted everything until I was happy. You might be able to see my erased lines. It took a while to get what I wanted. You have to keep hinge pin placement in mind and also how it will wrap around the box. I have everything lining up as it goes around the corners. Each line represents where the peaks (or high ground) will be. the area in between will hopefully be the ground out valleys. I am going for a wavy look. With a little luck each will flow into the next. I also picked a spot for the handle you can see in the final picture. This is not set in stone, but must be done before the grinding starts. The inside of the box must also be finished and the lid set and hinge pins glues in. I went over all that in a past blog. If I can remember, I will include it here as well.

Stayed tuned for the next episode.
Joey

-- JoeyG ~~~ http://www.facebook.com/JHGWoodWorks



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jaykaypur

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#1 posted 12-18-2011 08:32 PM

Thanks for doing this Joey. This is just like going to class!

-- Use it up, Wear it out --------------- Make it do, Or do without!

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JoeyG

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#2 posted 12-18-2011 09:01 PM

Your welcome!!! I hope I can pull it off. I am happy with the last two blogs I did. And I learned a lot about how to go about doing them. Hopefully the next episode will be up before Christmas. I glued up the handle a few mins ago. Trying to figure out how I want it to set. I have the hardest time coming up with handles.

I hope to see you using some of these methods soon.

-- JoeyG ~~~ http://www.facebook.com/JHGWoodWorks

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#3 posted 12-18-2011 09:50 PM

Looking forward to the rest of this. Thanks!

-- Harry, Indiana

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#4 posted 12-18-2011 11:51 PM

This might be too hard to do but if you have any more of the mahogany left over, could you somehow make/extend the handle almost like its a continuation of that part of the box lid? You have the lines pretty much lined up to do that.

Just a thought…............a hard thought but what the heck!

-- Use it up, Wear it out --------------- Make it do, Or do without!

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JoeyG

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#5 posted 12-19-2011 12:36 AM

I was thinking something in walnut and maple to put the miter keys together with the handle. This is what I have so far,

This was just some pieces out of my scrap box. They are much bigger than anything I will need so I have the size to do a lot a lot of different things. Many times I have shaped the handle, drill the holes for the dowels, put in on the lid and decide I didn’t like it. Hopefully this will be the answer the first time. I do have some of this same mahogany the box was made from, so if this doesn’t work I will give that a go.

-- JoeyG ~~~ http://www.facebook.com/JHGWoodWorks

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jaykaypur

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#6 posted 12-19-2011 01:49 AM

I am sure that whatever you decide to do it will be fine. As the saying goes…..”Just do it!”

-- Use it up, Wear it out --------------- Make it do, Or do without!

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#7 posted 12-19-2011 02:33 AM

Wow this is quite the process. I’m looking forward to the future posts to see how this turns out.

-- Like a bad penny, I keep coming back!

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#8 posted 12-19-2011 04:24 AM

Thanks for doing this as I know it is a lot of extra work for you. I am anxiously awaiting to next installment!

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

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JoeyG

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#9 posted 12-19-2011 04:59 AM

Thanks Betsy and gfadvm. It’s not really a lot of extra work, it’s just a lot of extra remembering. Not only do I have to remember that measurement I just took for the fifth time because I keep forgetting it, but I also have to remember to take pictures. LOL. The rest is just sitting down and typing out what I have done. I find I really enjoy the process. I get a zen kinda feeling as I try to find the correct words to explain what I am doing, just as I do in the shop when I find my groove. I have a hard time teaching as I do things because I am a hands on, it will take less time if I just do it myself kinda guy. Or I start talking and get back to work two hours later with my kids begging me to let them out of the shop, because they don’t care where the wood came from, they just want to build something. LOL. Just as I am doing here.

I take great pleasure in sharing what I know and learn. And I hope you all share and learn just as much with me.

Thanks. Next episode will be up in a day or two. We will attack that lid and figure out what to do with the handle. Until next time, stay safe, and thank you.

-- JoeyG ~~~ http://www.facebook.com/JHGWoodWorks

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#10 posted 12-19-2011 10:03 AM

Thanks Joey,

I thought all I have to do is get out my angle grinder and just hack away…

Well, I now see that some carefull planing is a better approach.
I like how you devided the box with a grid. The french curve? I never associated that with this process.

Lots of learning Joey.

Thanks!

-- Abbas, Castro Valley, CA

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#11 posted 12-19-2011 01:54 PM

That is all I have done up to this point. But I figured I would try a more refined approach with the blog. If I blow it I do it in front of you all. LOl. It will keep me on my toes. I also figured having a real plan and idea of what I wanted it to look like would help me explain what I was doing. Since I can’t do the grinding and take photos at the same time, this gives me a point I am working to. Hopefully it will work.

The grid look has given me a few ideas, but I will save them for now.

I used the french curve to help me lines flow smoothly. On my drawing, which I’ll get another pic for you guys, my curves were jerky. I wanted smooth curves to start with. Not the I can grind a smooth curve, but it looks pretty before I get started. LOL

-- JoeyG ~~~ http://www.facebook.com/JHGWoodWorks

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#12 posted 12-19-2011 02:08 PM

This is going top be interesting and I appreciate you putting this up.

helluvawreck

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-- If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away. Henry David Thoreau

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JoeyG

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#13 posted 12-22-2011 04:23 PM

Here is that picture of my first sketch. It’s only purpose was to help me visualize what I wanted the finished box to look like. I’m sorry it took me so long to add it.

I wish everyone a Merry Christmas and we shall continue this adventure next year. Stay safe,
Joey

-- JoeyG ~~~ http://www.facebook.com/JHGWoodWorks

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#14 posted 01-19-2012 04:59 PM

This looks like a great start! I also appreciate the thought you put into the handle in tying the miter keys in as well. A simple detail like that can make all the difference.

-- Jonathan, Denver, CO "Constructive criticism is welcome and valued as it gives me new perspectives and helps me to advance as a woodworker."

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#15 posted 09-27-2012 08:56 PM

sweet blog..i’ll try one of these pretty soon

-- Life is enjoyable especially when you borrow from people

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