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Blog entry by Jimi_C posted 11-25-2009 06:13 PM 2042 reads 0 times favorited 12 comments Add to Favorites Watch

Finally made it out to HF yesterday while the wife was taking a nap (unrelated reason, I swear!), and grabbed the 2HP DC. Here’s the box in my garage, and a glimpse at the inside of the packaging:

The large rectangular base was actually sitting on top of that, with Styrofoam in between. Overall, I was pretty happy with the packaging. Nothing was dinged, or otherwise beat up or even scratched as far as I could tell.

I pulled everything out, and started reading the instructions – the obvious weak point of cheaper tools. I think these instructions may have been written for the older version, and not updated, because there were some obvious differences. One such difference – that the bolts that hold the motor to the motor mount are longer – are nowhere in the instructions. Also, the instructions tell you to attach the handle after both dust bags are attached – which is quite impossible to do.

After a bit of part sorting, I was able to figure out which bolts went where and went at it. Here’s the finished result:

Not a bad looking unit, if I do say so. Unfortunately… I can’t use it. I noted in my head that this unit’s motor requires 20A, and did not do my homework on my home lines. Apparently everything in my garage is 15A, so I’m going to have to have new lines run. Luckily, my father-in-law was an electrician in the Navy, so I’ve asked him to come out and see what we can do.

Now, to start researching DIY cyclones… top of the list is the Thien.

-- The difference between being defeated and admitting defeat is what makes all the difference in the world - Upton Sinclair, "The Jungle"



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PurpLev

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#1 posted 11-25-2009 06:40 PM

congrats!

Thien separator is your first project, and also consider getting a Winn cartridge filter which will give you filteration down to 0.2micron, and also increase the suction of the DC.

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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#2 posted 11-25-2009 07:26 PM

more important, put a small collector to catch large (and metal) debri. I have a jet that looks identical (except color) and till i put a 5 gallon bucket in front of the intake I would now and then suck up a screw or large chunk of wood. Very hard on the propellor in the squirrel cage.

russv

-- yknotwood.com: where to go because you don't want no stinking plastic!

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Jimi_C

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#3 posted 11-25-2009 07:35 PM

@PurpLev: Yeah, I’d love to do that in the future, however I’ll be happy with any micron filtering right now :)

@russv: That’s what the Thien cyclone would be for. I’ve read the intake valve on the HF has a tendency to clog up if you don’t pre-filter, so I would definitely like to make this a 2 stage system.

-- The difference between being defeated and admitting defeat is what makes all the difference in the world - Upton Sinclair, "The Jungle"

#4 posted 11-25-2009 08:15 PM

hey jimi check the raiting on your wiring you moght be able to swap out your 15 amp breaker if you only run the dc on the circuit by its self

-- i wonder if obama stood in a wind storm with them big ears of his would he start spinning like a drill bit

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OhValleyWoodandWool

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#5 posted 11-25-2009 09:05 PM

Looks like a great addition to your shop

-- "All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence, and then Success is sure." Mark Twain

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dbhost

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#6 posted 11-25-2009 09:08 PM

Read my reviews on this DC, you are aiming at exactly what I recommend.

If you absolutely have to use it before you go 1 micron or lower with filtration, I would suggest that the DC be rolled outside, and a hose run to the tool in use… You don’t want to create a dust pump situation…

FWIW, I know the cartridges are spendy (but WELL worth it), but if budget is that tight, look at the 1 micron shaker felt bags from Highland Hardware. They run about $30.00.

-- My workshop blog can be found at http://daves-workshop.blogspot.com

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Jimi_C

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#7 posted 11-25-2009 10:37 PM

@dbhost: After finding out about the HF coupon, your review was one of the tipping factors in getting it :) I’m really not super concerned about creating a dust loop. Like I’ve said, I pretty much had nothing before, so anything will be better for now. I’m a hobbyist right now, so if I process 10 BF of wood in a week it’s a lot. In the future though, especially when I really get in the swing of working on my kitchen, I’ll look to invest in one of these two kits: http://www.wynnenv.com/35A_series_cartridge_kit.htm. I think the 35A274BLOL would meet my needs, though having the more expensive washable filter might be nice… just odd paying as much for a filter as for the whole DC :)

@randy: Annoyingly, the breakers I tripped are labeled as 20A, but I thought for at least one of them, the only other thing on it was a 4’ fluorescent light. What do those draw? I didn’t think it’d be too much but maybe it’s just enough that if I turn it off I’ll be ok.

-- The difference between being defeated and admitting defeat is what makes all the difference in the world - Upton Sinclair, "The Jungle"

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#8 posted 11-26-2009 05:15 AM

Jimi:

I’ll race ya’!

My electrician now says no 220V (or 110V upgrades) until at least 12/8

:-(

Congrats on the new purchase. First one operational has to post a review :-)

-- -- Neil

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#9 posted 11-26-2009 05:16 AM

Congrats on your new,DC.

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khop

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#10 posted 11-26-2009 05:26 AM

Jimi C and Beener, I will be glad to come over and run that wiring for ya, but you got to fly me there and put up room and board. ??? WELL
KHOP

-- How am I doing? Better than I deserve. Dave Ramsey

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Jimi_C

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#11 posted 11-26-2009 09:12 AM

@khop: Springfield IL is just a shot straight down 55 to STL :) I’ve driven through Springfield dozens of times on my way to Peoria/Davenport, back when I was an IT guy for a scrap metal company.

-- The difference between being defeated and admitting defeat is what makes all the difference in the world - Upton Sinclair, "The Jungle"

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#12 posted 11-30-2009 05:53 AM

Jimi,
I think you will be very happy with this unit. I bought one on ebay new from a dealer in Michigan for under 200.00 about a year ago. I have to say ( ready for the pun) this thing really sucks.

I had just had my service panel in the house replaced and had two 20A circuits available for the garage. I shopped it for a while and knew it needed more than my original 15A that I had in the garage. I bought a wireless switch for it at Woodcraft about a month ago and needed to return it. It wouldn’t handle the draw at start up as it was only rated for 15A. I don’t think that the running load is that much but the start up peaks over 15A.

At any rate I don’t think you will be disappointed and for the price difference from the Delta or Jet products you can buy a few new tools….

-- Keith, Bolingbrook, Illinois. The way I figure it I only have the rest of my life to get good at this...

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