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The Basement #28: Dust Collector Mod

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Blog entry by JL7 posted 824 days ago 4503 reads 3 times favorited 11 comments Add to Favorites Watch
« Part 27: Copy Cat......... Part 28 of The Basement series Part 29: Shop Vac - Cyclone and Cart »

Modded the single stage collector into a dual stage collector using to the super dust deputy from Oneida – Decided to to relocate the motor and blower above the cyclone and minimize the runs…..also hard mounted the cyclone under the blower and built a riser to bring the barrel into the cyclone. The barrel was a freebie from work.

Worked on this all day and not much scientific data to report – but here is a video of the first run, using a bucket of super fine dust – Some dust did make it to the second bag – see photos after the video…..

Here is the dust that made it into the second bag:

More than I would like but I will continue to tweak the system….

Since the cyclone is hard mounted above, I have to bring the barrel up to the cyclone:

The lift is hinged in the back and will lift the barrel straight up into the cyclone. Use another short 2×4 to lock the barrel tight up to the cyclone…

Some other photos from the build:

I’ll shorten up the flex tube runs after a few days of proving the layout…..

Thanks for looking.

UPDATE - Newer photos posted here.

-- Jeff - I have not failed. I've just found 10,002 ways that won't work.



11 comments so far

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ShaneA

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#1 posted 824 days ago

Whoa Jeff, kinda has a nice but yet mad scientist look to it. Pretty cool, hopefully you can get it dialed in the way you want.

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Dave

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#2 posted 824 days ago

Dude that sucks! I mean it really sucks well. I like the barrel raising contraption as much as the system. Nice work Jeff, she is a beauty. Well done.
I can just see Safety Cat sleeping on it while its running.
Great job.

-- Superdav "No matter where you go - there you are." http://chiselandforge.com

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JL7

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#3 posted 824 days ago

Shane – will do for sure…..thanks

Dave – the barrel raising contraption took most of the (stare motionless) time….and despite the video, it works pretty good.

I hope safety cat doesn’t get to close to the inlet tho…...rrrrreeeooowww…......

-- Jeff - I have not failed. I've just found 10,002 ways that won't work.

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Jeremy Greiner

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#4 posted 824 days ago

Really Nice,
Do you run the 5’’ out if so where do you get the 5’’ piping? or do you drop it down to 4’’?

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JL7

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#5 posted 824 days ago

Thanks Jeremy – the 5” runs up to the ceiling then it’s 4” PVC. My main dust run is up in the floor joists and it also goes under the steel header that holds up the floor, so 4” is the max for now…......

-- Jeff - I have not failed. I've just found 10,002 ways that won't work.

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fernandoindia

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#6 posted 824 days ago

Seems a better set up Jeff.

I like the hidden dovetails of the lift mechanism. WOrks fine.

-- Back home. Fernando

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SPalm

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#7 posted 824 days ago

Hey Jeff, that is really nice. Some honest fiddling going on to get this installed. Good for you.
I hope you are not moving anytime soon.

Steve

-- -- I'm no rocket surgeon

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JL7

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#8 posted 824 days ago

Fernando and Steve – Appreciate the comments! Yeah I forgot to photograph the hidden dovetails in the 2×4 lift…oops. And yes, the thought of moving now is like a nightmare…...

Forgot to mention – mounted the blower on the wall and decided to test fire it with no plumbing attached to check for noise, vibration etc….......holy dust storm batman…..didn’t stop to think about all that dust in the ceiling just making to be released…....I think it’s time to turn on the air cleaners and get the leaf blower and free some dust!

-- Jeff - I have not failed. I've just found 10,002 ways that won't work.

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eddie

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#9 posted 823 days ago

Jeff im at the stage where dust collection is at the top of my gotta do list ,been thinking about the HF and setting it up like this, the duct work you got seem to work too ,how did the connections go.and like your shop and you cant go wrong with CCR playing in the back ground

-- Jesus Is Alright with me

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JL7

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#10 posted 823 days ago

Hey Eddie – If I were to do it over from scratch, I think I would go with the HF as well ($150 with the coupon…..can’t go wrong). But for some reason, I think the inlet on the HF is 5”, but not sure…?

The inlet on mine is 6”, and it’s the same on the dust deputy and originally I was just going to use a short piece of flex tube and let the cyclone dangle….......but I was wandering around Menards looking for parts (not sure what I was looking for, but just looking…) I found something called a draw band connector – which is just a piece of sheetmetal that wraps around the connection and is tightened up with a hose type fitting that’s welded on the sheet metal.

So to make the solid connection between the blower and cyclone, I used 2 things…first on the ID, I used a cheapo 6” sheet metal connector – the same one you would use for HVAC ductwork – then I applied a bunch of silicone to the outside of the connection and wrapped the draw band connector around it and used some self tappers to pin it all together. Seems good and solid and super cheap – like $4.

Besides the cyclone itself, the 5” and 6” flex stings a bit on the budget – found the heavy duty stuff on sale at PSI and with freight was just over $100 for 5’ of each, plus a 6”-5” reducer to plug into the existing ductwork.

Not sure if that answers your question or not, but definitively go for it – this is the best improvement ever made in the shop…....at least that’s today opinion!

-- Jeff - I have not failed. I've just found 10,002 ways that won't work.

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exelectrician

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#11 posted 807 days ago

Jeff – You have nailed it. I agree with all that you have done here … except routing the air that comes out of the filter outside. I have read so many claims about how wonderful the various filters are but when I look at the behaviour of corporations in general how can mere mortals like us test thier claims – without paying the ultimate price?

-- Love thy neighbour as thyself

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