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Workbench Build #7: First attempt (ever) at hand cut dovetails....

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Not much of an update here – but I will start by saying…...I have contemplated many ways of building this bench without dovetailing the apron into the end caps…..but of course I WANT this essentail feature so invested part of my tax return into a proper saw, and now I am committed. I picked up the Lie-Nielsen saw and and as most of you know, it is amazing the difference it makes in cut control.

Before that…....I cut the dado’s into the end caps and they fit the bench nice and snug:

I know I should practice this technique on other material, but I am kind of stubborn that way and have decided that I will publish the results (good or bad) either way. I AM howver looking for any good advice or links on how to properly proceed from here…...(thanks!)

The front apron is 1-3/4” stock (laminated) by 73” long.

The ceiling height in the basement is 7’ to the bottom of the floor joists. For some reason I decided the board had to be vertical to cut my first dovetail joint, so after much trepidation – I choose this spot to cut the first joints – it allowed me to stand on the step stool and get my noggin between the floor joists and actually make a cut:

Here is a view from the ceiling:

My first 2 cuts were not on the mark – in the pic below it is cut 2 and 3 from the right – the rest were improved. I better understand the importance of aligning and correcting early in the cut.

I should add, once I got the rhythm of the saw, it cut sweet, even tho I had 3+ feet of timber flapping in the air.

Looking for any input on good ways to clean out the waste on these thick tails. I did “Get ‘R Done” but probably
not the most efficient way…..

Thats it for now – next step is cutting the pins into (one) end cap and the starting the process all over on the other end.

Would really appreciate any relevant advice on this process…...

Thanks for looking.

Jeff

-- Jeff - I have not failed. I've just found 10,002 ways that won't work.



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Dave

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#1 posted 1146 days ago

Jeff it looks like you are cutting your tails first. I prefer this method because you are cutting the finish side. If you cut your pins first this is harder. Always if you error do it in the waste. And even if your angles are not the same. When you mark the pins it will work out. It looks like you are cutting a few at the same time. Another great reason to be tails first. Those fine looking chisels look to be cutting a nice clean cut. Your shoulders look nice to.
This is the jig I use for my shoulders. My eyes aren’t great.


After I make my cut. I will use a rasp to clean up the saw marks then finish with a pairing chisel. Great job;
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JL7

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#2 posted 1146 days ago

Hey Dave – thanks for the tips…..ALWAYS appreciated!

BTW – us lowly folks in MN seem to be at the high temp today of 103 degrees…..............yikes…....sending it south now…......

Jeff

-- Jeff - I have not failed. I've just found 10,002 ways that won't work.

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SPalm

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#3 posted 1146 days ago

The heat will kill the mosquitoes. Well not really, but it is a nice thought.

Just go for it,
Steve

-- -- I'm no rocket surgeon

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rance

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#4 posted 1146 days ago

Jeff, If it takes using a ‘jig’ or an ‘aid’, then do it. And don’t feel bad about it. When I say ‘aid’, I’m talking about something to keep your chisel(or saw) at the angle you want. And before you proceed, make for darned sure that your chisels are SCARY SHARP.

As for your sawing, you can either use your saw(which is a good one, that is perfectly capable) as a roughing tool, or use it as a precision cutting machine. From what I hear you saying, I’d say lean towards roughing out with the saw and finish with the chisel. From what I see in the photos, I think with some practice, you could saw pretty much as the final surface. Dovetails are not insurmountable, but it takes the some good technique. Good technique more-so than practice.

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Dave

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#5 posted 1145 days ago

103 keep it. Its been 100 to 101 with 70% humidity. hot i mean hot

-- Superdav "No matter where you go - there you are." http://chiselandforge.com

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JL7

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#6 posted 1145 days ago

Dave and Rance – good points on using the jigs and such – will defineately work on that aspect…..also a good point about using the saw for roughing only…..I think that would be a good idea with the pins….

Appreciate the input!

And Steve – we can only dream of killing the mosquitos…............not happening!

Jeff

-- Jeff - I have not failed. I've just found 10,002 ways that won't work.

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