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Claro Walnut Box #4: Lessons from Finishing

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Blog entry by HorizontalMike posted 01-21-2017 03:13 PM 1117 reads 0 times favorited 10 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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Well I finally decided to complete my “finishing” of this box, flock it, and to add hardware. I chose to final finish polishing with Johnson’s Paste Wax (JPW) which comes out with a satiny semi-gloss sheen. Here are my last steps on this project. I really learned a lot from finishing this box. Too glossy brings out every single flaw and amplifies it/them, making things look worse rather than better. Too much effort IMO. Semi-gloss seems to “ask” to be touched, picked up, and handled.
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Wipe-on varnish plus Deft sprat-on lacquer. Very shiny but lots of orange peal (a trade off IMO)
TOO MUCH IMO!


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WAY TOO Shiny! Just look at that orange peal!

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. Flocking the bottom of box. Had brown and black, so chose black because brown was poor match in appearance. The flocking process works well, but definitely is messy applying:



Top Left Corner, lid repair. This came out much better than I thought (from jointer tear-out):

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."



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#1 posted 01-21-2017 07:18 PM

Can you sand off the Gloss Deft and then spray with semi gloss Deft?

Be sure previous coats are CURED before sanding & spraying anymore…

-- Have Fun! Joe Lyddon - Alta Loma, CA USA - Home: http://www.WoodworkStuff.net ... My Small Gallery: http://www.ncwoodworker.net/pp/showgallery.php?ppuser=1389&cat=500"

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#2 posted 01-21-2017 08:53 PM

beautiful box, wood grain just is awesome

-- Jesus Is Alright with me

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#3 posted 01-21-2017 11:26 PM

The timber is certainly impressive thats for sure.
I hope you put Clario in a plastic container to recover the flocking as you say its a messy process and is wasteful if the excess is not able to be recovered for later use.

As for your finishing:-

Its better than my efforts.

This is a table top I gave up on trying to get rid of the orange peel

I used a roller to apply the finish fist up.
Then steel wool (0000) on the surface 48 Hr later.
Applied a second coat, but could not get the finish I wanted.
I even went back to the paint supplier and up graded my rollers for a third go, still minimal improvement.

The third surface prep included using thinners as a buffer but it didnt help either
so sadly it stayed that way.

I am not sure of the reason we cannot get the finish required thse days, and its not the first time for me either, some time ago my Japanese Low table went on the footpath in frustration due to not getting a mirror finish

-- Regards Robert

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#4 posted 01-22-2017 12:40 AM


Can you sand off the Gloss Deft and then spray with semi gloss Deft?
Be sure previous coats are CURED before sanding & spraying anymore…
- Joe Lyddon

Joe,
I waited several days, or a couple weeks, before polishing with #0000 and/or 1500grit on a block with oil. It became much smoother, but without a sheen. At least the pores were filled.

Unfortunately, there comes a point when the effort exceeds the result. I feel I reached that point. FWIW, while I do have Deft Semi-gloss, that alone does not necessarily eliminate the “orange peal” issue. Bottom line is that I still am satisfied with the results for now… Lessons learned.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#5 posted 01-22-2017 12:48 AM

Hey Rob,
I agree. Orange peal is an issue when trying to get that “perfect” finish. My patience wore thin after dozens of coats with intermediate polishing/sanding. Much at play here… the hardness of the wood, the fingers with 90* cross-grain and parallel grains, the porosity of different parts of the wood (particularly Clario-walnut), etc. In other words, those with extreme patience and excess finish may be able to achieve that elusive finish, but I lack the patience… at least THIS time. Still proud of the end product though… ;-)

Oops, almost forgot… I DID recover the excess flocking, other than what I may have inhaled… ;-o

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#6 posted 01-22-2017 01:59 AM

Mike you should be proud of that box. It’s absolutely stunning! I hope you keep for yourself. It’s to darn nice to give away.

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#7 posted 01-22-2017 01:49 PM



Mike you should be proud of that box. It s absolutely stunning! I hope you keep for yourself. It s to darn nice to give away.
- BurlyBob

YUP! It now holds my keys and wallet on the dresser at night… ;-)

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#8 posted 01-22-2017 05:39 PM

Beautiful work Mike, congrats!

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#9 posted 01-23-2017 06:00 AM

< BIG SMILE >

-- Have Fun! Joe Lyddon - Alta Loma, CA USA - Home: http://www.WoodworkStuff.net ... My Small Gallery: http://www.ncwoodworker.net/pp/showgallery.php?ppuser=1389&cat=500"

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#10 posted 01-29-2017 06:03 PM

Bring me my sunglasses – that man can make it SHINE!
Looking really good and I think it makes your box look like really fine work, meaning you did well on the details.
Best thoughts,
Mads

-- MAD F, the fanatical rhykenologist and vintage architect. Democraticwoodworking.

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