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Blog entry by GotHardWood posted 09-21-2014 10:15 AM 1664 reads 0 times favorited 8 comments Add to Favorites Watch

We bought a house that was built in the 1930’s from a Sears & Roebuck catalog. In keeping with the existing cabinets (which she decided we love), I had to build her some uppers to go above the stove. Of course.this meant remodeling the entire kitchen. The existing cabinets are pine everything. Chromed hinges and handles with glass knobs on the doors. After stripping out the old BX wiring and running more conventional electrics, and replacing all the 1/4 inch hardboard walls with 1/2 inch rock, I got to paint the walls and start on the uppers!. My first time building cabinets was not so bad but, there were minor challenges. I mounted the doors too close together and didn’t account for hinge space. Silly me, thinking of euro hinges. I used 3/4 birch for the carcasses and 3/4 pine for the face and doors with 1/4inch birch panels. (I could not bring myself to do pine panels) Stained with Cherry#235 and 2 coats of semi gloss poly, with a light sanding in between. The spice rack is pine with a 1/4 inch birch panel in the middle. Old style deco hinges mounted to the face frame. There is a 1/8” clearance when opening the spice rack. That was pure luck! I had it figured to 3/4”. I had to move the door catch from the middle,to the top because of that. You know what though? She likes it! Now she’s allowing me to start the lowers! Wish me luck everyone! Here are the pics. The first one is obviously the before.




-- I'm tryin' to think, but nothin' happens!



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Bob Kassmeyer

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#1 posted 09-21-2014 01:49 PM

Look good really like the spice rack. The Pine that you chose really has a lot of character.

-- Bob Kassmeyer, Nebraska

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#2 posted 09-21-2014 02:35 PM

Looks great very nice work.

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#3 posted 09-21-2014 05:34 PM

Great work and thanks for this nice article….
I too own a Sear’s mail order home – circa 1928.
FYI – Most SMOH’s reside near railroad tracks because that’s the way
they delivered them.

I wonder if you encounter the same stuff I have? Like, no such
thing as a square corner or plumb wall or door opening? Floors
that expand and contract greatly depending on the time of the year?

A good thing is it is made like a rock and is build really well compared
to the junk houses they’ve made the past 20-30 years.

Interested to hear your other experiences and challenges! Great lukc.

-- Before you louse it up, THIMK!

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GotHardWood

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#4 posted 09-21-2014 10:06 PM

Buck… You nailed it! I just put down a kitchen floor and as I got tothe outside edge, I lost a 1/4inch every 4 feet… Thank goodness for 3/4 quarter round moulding…lol. The floors constantly squeakin warmer weather, not so much in the winter. It is definitely a solid home though! One challenge I gave up on, is that the baseboard was installed below floor level and removal was impossible. All I can do is match the new baseboard to the existing with a close stain and poly, and rip it to height. I have to admit it though, I am loving the challenges! Thanks for the note!

-- I'm tryin' to think, but nothin' happens!

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#5 posted 09-22-2014 09:42 PM

Interesting – thanks for the response GHW.
Have you gone up in the attic and found lumber with the ‘instructions’ on where it is to be installed? In other words, much of the lumber has a room and designation on it that was spray painted via stencils. Really cool. I keep a short cut-off around for conversation purposes.

We enjoy our SMOH and they say it is a selling point – who really knows though.

Take care and remember to ‘measure thrice and cut once’t’

-- Before you louse it up, THIMK!

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#6 posted 09-26-2014 11:31 PM

I think the rails & stiles are reversed on the outer cabinets’ face frames, but I love the pivoting spice rack! I’ve seen the one that goes inside two base cabs and they pivot and have more pullout shelves behind them. There’s another similar version for wall cabs where you pull out one and flip it 180 degrees and another is behind it that does something similar. I will have some 9” wide wall & base cabs that I’ll make pullouts to be useful.

You mentioned you mounted the doors too close and didn’t account for hinge space—I see you ended up using old style hinges. Did you try any Euro hinges at all? I think they may have worked on the inner smaller cabs if you had the right overlay. I’m doing my kitchen soon and ordered Blumotion soft close Euro hinges with a 1-1/4” overlay and my faceframes will be 1-1/2” wide so hoping that 1/4” extra will be enough.

-- So economically handicapped I'm strictly on a strictly strict budget...

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#7 posted 09-27-2014 11:45 AM

Mark, it was all built to match the existing cabinets that are already there. That meant building the rails and stiles in that order, and the hinges are a pretty close match. No euro hinges in 1936…lol.

-- I'm tryin' to think, but nothin' happens!

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matermark

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#8 posted 09-27-2014 04:30 PM



Mark, it was all built to match the existing cabinets that are already there. That meant building the rails and stiles in that order, and the hinges are a pretty close match. No euro hinges in 1936…lol.

- GotHardWood


Wow, you mean the faceframe original stiles were between the rails, instead of the rails between the stiles?

I didn’t know which way to take your original comment about Euro hinges in your opening post.

Do you have any pics of the other cabs you tried to match? I’ve never seen a Sears MO home before…

-- So economically handicapped I'm strictly on a strictly strict budget...

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