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Blog entry by GaryK posted 2362 days ago 4393 reads 0 times favorited 21 comments Add to Favorites Watch

I like my biesemeyer fence but I also like some of the versitility of the unifence.

Does anyone know for sure if they both use the same mounting rails?

Basically could I take one off and use the other one interchangeably?

thanks

-- Gary - Never pass up the opportunity to make a mistake look like you planned it that way - Tyler, TX



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tenontim

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#1 posted 2362 days ago

Doesn’t the biesemeyer fence have a rail in front and back? That’s the main reason I haven’t changed the fence on my saw. I have a wrap around extension table that prevents me from using the back rail.

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GaryK

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#2 posted 2362 days ago

No rail on the back for the biesemeyer. The only rail back there is for attaching the wooden table
extenstion.

It’s the front rail I’m concerned about. And that’s if it’s the same size on both fences to make them
interchangelable.

-- Gary - Never pass up the opportunity to make a mistake look like you planned it that way - Tyler, TX

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Tony

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#3 posted 2362 days ago

Gary have you tried this link
http://benchmark.20m.com/articles/UnifenceVersusBessy/unifenceversusbessy.html

They look like totally different mounting systems to me

-- Tony - All things are possible, just some things are more difficult than others! - SKYPE: Heron2005 (http://www.poydatjatuolit.fi)

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GaryK

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#4 posted 2362 days ago

Tony – I’ve seen that site.

They look like old pictures to me. The picture of the biesemeyer doesn’t look like mine as far as the rail goes.
The one for the unifence actually looks closer to what I have. That’s the reason for this post.

-- Gary - Never pass up the opportunity to make a mistake look like you planned it that way - Tyler, TX

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Kevin

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#5 posted 2362 days ago

Gary I think they use different styles of rails as well. I have the Unifence.

-- Kevin, Wichita, Kansas

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tenontim

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#6 posted 2362 days ago

I’ve looked at some of the pictures of the new biesemeyer fences and it does look real close to the unifence rail. The unifence rail on my saw is bolted flush with the table top and it looks like the biesemeyer needs to have space between the rail and the saw table. Plus it looks like it’s lower than the top. Mine is almost flush.

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Jeff

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#7 posted 2362 days ago

Hi Gary. I have the Unifence at home but have been using a Powermatic (beismeyer type fence) in my furniture class… They are different mounts altogether. I’ve not heard of an adaptation but that doesn’t mean one doesn’t exist somewhere (maybe in your head ;-) ).

I’m like you I wish I could have both worlds but if I were to do it again, I would go with the beismeyer. It is a much more smoothly performing mechanism. My two cents.

-- Jeff, St. Paul, MN

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GaryK

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#8 posted 2362 days ago

Mine has a 3/4 gap between the rail and table.

The rail size is 2” x 3”.

What about the unifence?

-- Gary - Never pass up the opportunity to make a mistake look like you planned it that way - Tyler, TX

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Bob #2

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#9 posted 2362 days ago

Could this be a market for a retrofit or are we violating patents?

Bob

-- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner

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Patrick Jaromin

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#10 posted 2362 days ago

They’re completely different mechanisms. I recently replaced my unifence with a bies when I upgraded saws. The unifence mechanism rides inside a channel in the front rail

-- Patrick, Chicago, IL http://www.TenonAndSpline.com/blog

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Jeff

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#11 posted 2362 days ago

Yep. An extruded aluminum fence is mounted to the table just as Patrick says.

-- Jeff, St. Paul, MN

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GaryK

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#12 posted 2362 days ago

Oh, well!

Would someone post a picture of how the unifence mounts?

-- Gary - Never pass up the opportunity to make a mistake look like you planned it that way - Tyler, TX

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Kevin

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#13 posted 2362 days ago

My Unifence is like Patrick’s. The Unifence has a channel on the front and there is a metal piece that rides inside of this channel. When locked down, this metal piece pulls the Unifence into the front of this channel. I know a Unifence like mine will not work on a Bies rail. Now whether a Bies would work on a Unifence rail I do not know. I’m afraid the Unifence rail is to rectangular plus the back (near the saw) of the rail is not flat, it angles upward for the tape to attach to.

See photos in my Unisaw blog: http://lumberjocks.com/jocks/KevinHuber/blog/3282

Tenontim ,my Unifence is mounted below the table top. If it is flush to the top, how does the miter guage work?

-- Kevin, Wichita, Kansas

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Kevin

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#14 posted 2362 days ago

I also just noticed something else. The Bies has space between the rail and the saw. My unifence rail mounts flush to the saw. That is probably what Tim was talking about. My bad Tim.

-- Kevin, Wichita, Kansas

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GaryK

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#15 posted 2362 days ago

Thanks for the pictures. Now I fully understand the differences.

-- Gary - Never pass up the opportunity to make a mistake look like you planned it that way - Tyler, TX

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