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Big Bro's Boat #1: one year later

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Blog entry by Flemming posted 08-12-2010 12:15 AM 1405 reads 0 times favorited 11 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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this is a massive project… to say the least. and i’d like to point out that i hanvt had as much to do with her as i’d like. my brother was given this boat for free (lucky sonofa…) under the condition that he fix it up and take the previous owner out for a sail when she is seaworthy again. i cannot begin to describe how much work has gone into her… all of the paint (outboard and inboard), as well as lacquer has to be scraped off before anything else can happen. not even that is finished yet. if I have to make a guess, I’d say about 1000 man hours have been put into her thus far. but she’s a beauty, and certainly worth it, a heavy displacement boat from 1932. Her name is Argo.

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above is a picture of the beauty after all of the bottom paint and laquer has been scraped off.

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there’s not a whole lot of room to find a comfortable position to scrape off the paint at the extremities of the boat… but the scraping must be done!!! and mark my words, i wont be back to help until that is finished!!!

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my brother has asked me to do a few cosmetic jobs on the boat… and if this one turns out alright, i’ll get the commission, and if not… well… i’ll have fun anyway :) honestly, i think at this point it’s a little early for him to ask me… because there’s still probably 200 man hours left before reconstruction on the boat can begin. the picture above shows the piece i will be “replacing”. it came off of the forward part of the boat, just in front of the mast. the idea is to replace the piece with a new one that incorporates the ships name.

my brother and i have very different tastes, and in my opinion the name of a ship should not be put on the forward, upper deck of a ship… but so be it, it’s his boat and i’ll do my best to make it subtle ;) but I’m excited about this project! there’s a lot of things on my list of projects right now, and i’d like to get this done fast, but i’m quite sure i wont. in any case, this will give me a chance to combine my love of metal work with my love of woodworking :) because the boats name will of course have to be inlayed into the new piece and it will of course have to be sawed, filed and shaped out of bronze :D

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this is a close up shot of a more clean part of the wood. the consensus between my brother and his friend is that the wood is teak, but i’m not so sure. any ideas?

-- Flemming. It's only a mistake if you can't fix it.



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RonPeters

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#1 posted 08-12-2010 03:30 AM

Teak is light weight if that helps?

-- “Once more unto the breach, dear friends...” Henry V - Act III, Scene I

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RichClark

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#2 posted 08-12-2010 05:44 AM

Doubt its lacquer… I imagine its a much funner to scrape form of Spar Varnish… in any case both are fun to scrape and I see your are indoors! I vote move it to my house south of Tampa and work on it properly, all cussing and sweat drenched outside!

-- Duct Tape is the Force! It has a light side and a dark side and it Binds the Universe together!

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#3 posted 08-12-2010 08:19 AM

Flemming
one thing is sure …the time flyes when you have fun….....LOL
this summer I said no to a free sailboat about the same size
didn´t have space for it and too many hours working on job :-(

good luck to you and your brother with the rehab of her

Dennis

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#4 posted 08-12-2010 08:21 AM

wow, what a wonderful boat! she seems in good condition, doesn’t she?

-- Antonio

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Flemming

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#5 posted 08-12-2010 11:40 AM

Ron – the wood is quite light. thanks for the tip :D you learn something new every day! the wood has a red colour and it probably is teak, gonna take it down to the docks and have some of the more experienced craftsmen look at it. (cant well replace it with a different kind of wood…)

Rich – i appreciate people calling me out :) i’m new to this and lacquer for me means any clear coat ;) by the way, i love your star wars duct tape signature!

Dennis – i can understand why you said no to the boat!! it’s a daunting task, but luckily it’s all done in good spirits and in spare time.

Antonio – she is a beauty :) she is in fairly good condition. I’m not an expert, but there’s a few boards below the water line and one or two along the keel that need to be changed… and i just found out that the mast broke when some kids were jumping on it… she just needs a loving hand, some blood, sweat, and tears. then she’ll be back in the water :) summer of 2012 she should be relaunched

my brother is sharing the workload with a friend of his (and me when i have the time or can be bothered :P) and i still remember the very first plan they drew up for the project… i will get my hands on it and scan it in for you. it’s hilarious. i dont remember the exact figures but i believe the time allocated for scraping paint was somewhere in the vicinity of 16 hours, LOL!!! i remember rolling my eyes at that, but you cant argue with those two :)

-- Flemming. It's only a mistake if you can't fix it.

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mafe

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#6 posted 08-12-2010 02:09 PM

It will be a wonderful boat, no doubt.
And yes a lot of man hours will go int this.
I used to sail whan I was a boy, and I have spend many winterdays preparing the boats. It’s a disipline, and eigther you love it, or…
I’m sure you will make your brother proud.
Mads

-- Mad F, the fanatical rhykenologist and vintage architect. Democraticwoodworking.

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Div

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#7 posted 08-12-2010 09:45 PM

The picture is a little dark, but it definitely looks like Burmese teak from here.

-- Div @ the bottom end of Africa. "A woodworker's sharpest tool should be his mind."

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#8 posted 08-13-2010 01:32 AM

Hi Flemming, you know what sailors say:
The boat is a hole in the sea where you throw your dollars

Nice boat, nice job ahead. The previous owner: a wise man

Agree with you, the name of her should be located at the transom, disregarding the stern type. But is not our boat. You still have a lot of time to convince him. lol

As Div said, is teak.

The most difficult jobs there are deciding which piece of wood to change, and whether you change all the screws, or only the ones related with the changed parts. Usually boats are made with bronze screws. Through the screw hole is where the oxidation and rot starts. Look into the teak piece you have handy that was not submerged. It will pay to randomly check the status of the old screws for oxidation, corrosion o galvanic effects. Definitely I would have an experienced ship carpenter to view or provide with a report on the hull. Is not rocket science, but a niche knowledge.

The best,

-- Back home. Fernando

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Flemming

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#9 posted 08-13-2010 12:38 PM

Mads – yeah she is a beauty isnt she :) danish coming up people… det er en spidsgatter, bygget på Brøderne Lock skibsværft i Kbh. efter tegninger af Hansen (skullge være en af de førende inden for spidsgatter på det tidspunkt). kølen blev lagt i 1930 og hun var færdig 1932. og ja, der kommer til at gå RIGTIG meget tid i hende endnu.. tror min bror er lidt mere optimist end jeg er nogengange ;)

Div – thank you my friend. it’s not so easy for me to identify wood yet. all i know is that walnut is darker than maple ;) but now i’ve learned teak is relatively light weight!! and that this looks like burmese teak! you learn something new every day :D

Fernandoindia – agreed that the previous owner was a wise man!! i guess it’s true that wisdom comes with age. I have convinced my brother to put the name on the transom (but my brother still wants the name on the forward upper deck… sigh…), but it’s a little difficult on this boat because the rudder is outboard, and she does not have any straight lines anywhere… i suggested to put the name on the port side of the transom, because the starboard side is already decorated with various inlets and outlets.. they will be having a boat builder to come look at her within a month or so, so we’ll see what he says, and with his niche knowledge, he will no doubt be able to find a lot more more subtle pieces that aren’t looking too good.

appreciate the feedback guys :)

-- Flemming. It's only a mistake if you can't fix it.

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RonPeters

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#10 posted 08-14-2010 05:20 PM

I have a friend that owns some teak chairs. They are reddish in color and fairly ‘thin’ looking in appearance. I was surprised when I picked one up at how light it was. Very strong stuff.

-- “Once more unto the breach, dear friends...” Henry V - Act III, Scene I

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#11 posted 08-17-2010 03:17 PM

Looks like a great boat Flemming and at a glance it looks to be in pretty good condition too. Hope you will keep us updated on progress up to the point it’s once again ready for the sea.

-- Mike, an American living in Norway.

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