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Blog entry by John Nixon posted 02-07-2010 at 11:13 AM 5180 reads 3 times favorited 23 comments Add to Favorites Watch

Here is a sneak peek at the greatest innovation in woodworking router tables and lifts! MLCS Woodworking and Eagle Lake Woodworking have spent two plus years designing, developing, and testing the world’s first foot-activated MOTORIZED ROUTER LIFT for retail sale.

To see more details about this device, visit the project page at Eagle Lake Woodworking -
http://www.eaglelakewoodworking.com/post/Motorized-Router-Lift-Retail-Version.aspx

-- John Nixon - Buffalo, NY - http://www.EagleLakeWoodworking.com



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bigike

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#1 posted 02-07-2010 at 11:18 AM

i didn’t even watch the vid yet but what’s the price i want one now??????

-- Ike, Big Daddies Woodshop, http://www.icombadaniels@yahoo.com

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John Gray

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#2 posted 02-07-2010 at 11:23 AM

Looks nice just hope it does not break my bank. ;-0

-- Only the Shadow knows....................

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#3 posted 02-07-2010 at 11:28 AM

oh john your killen me this was a big tease. LOL i can’t wait till it’s for sale is it gonna come with a insert plate,and will it fit any router like the 3-1/4HP routers, or just routers that can change bases? either way i got it covered i have three routers and two have the abilaty to change bases i want a PC router plung 3HP but if this can only take the other routers i’ll get one of those.

THANKS for the info!

-- Ike, Big Daddies Woodshop, http://www.icombadaniels@yahoo.com

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patron

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#4 posted 02-07-2010 at 11:40 AM

looks really nice ,
when i win the lottery ,
i’ll get one or five (LOL) !

thanks for the show ,

let us know what you think ,
when you get yours .

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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#5 posted 02-07-2010 at 12:04 PM

Nice lift John,I watched your video on your lift and glad to see MLCS has decided to go with you to market the lift.Good luck

-- Bill in Mich

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#6 posted 02-07-2010 at 12:27 PM

Man – Just when I reached the point that I am really happy and satisfied with my router table configuration this comes along. I can see some real advantages to this lift.

MLCS tries to be price competitive in everything they sell. My guess is that it will be priced in the $400s. If it is $429 or lower, I’m in. If it is $479 or higher I’ll have to think about it for a while.

-- Rich, Cedar Rapids, IA - I'm a woodworker. I don't create beauty, I reveal it.

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John Nixon

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#7 posted 02-07-2010 at 12:53 PM

Hi Guys.

PRICE – I don’t know the price yet, but MLCS has indicated that they wanted to price this Motorized Router Lift (MRL) comparible to the other quality manual lifts. In other words, you’d be crazy to not get the MRL if you were considering getting one of the higher priced manual lifts.

ROUTERS – the initial device released is going to support most 3.5 inch diameter router motors. Most motors this size are in the 2 1/4 HP range. E.g. Porter Cable PC690, 890 , Dewalt DWD616, Bosch 1618evs.

There’s going to be a couple jigs offered as accessories to support mortising and circle cutting.

I’m excited to see this device getting closer to market. As many of you know, I’ve used a Motorized Router Lift in my shop for about 7 years now. I worked closely with the engineers, designers, and manufacturing facility to ensure an accurate and quality device was produced. I’ve been using one of the factory prototypes in my shop for many months now, and I love it.

-- John Nixon - Buffalo, NY - http://www.EagleLakeWoodworking.com

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#8 posted 02-07-2010 at 01:26 PM

This looks great John ,Look forward hearing about the price. Do you have a guess when it will come out?

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

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#9 posted 02-07-2010 at 04:56 PM

Hmmm, my quick impression is that this is built too chintzy. Plastic router mounts and undersized guideposts don’t compare favorably at all with the well-built manual router lift I am using now. The control panel with over-center discs under a plastic overlay is the absolute cheapest you can produce. They just don’t hold up well under use.

Love the concept; loathe the implementation. I think I will wait for 2.0.

-- "Find out what you cannot do and then go do it!"

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#10 posted 02-07-2010 at 05:33 PM

I appreciate your feedback EEngineer, but I’ll have to correct you on a few points:

1.) The guide posts are the same diameter as the woodpecker lift.

2.) The clamps are a heat treated resin. While, yes that qualifies as plastic, they are up to the task.

3.) The main carriage (the part under the decal) is solid aluminum and quite hefty.

4.) The control panel was purposely designed with the plastic overlay to prevent dust and other contaminants from damaging the circuitry. This method certainly does hold up to use – nearly every microwave oven in America uses this approach for the same reason it was chosen for this product..

You obviously have knowledge in this subject area, and I thank you for your feedback. Someone as knowledgeable as yourself can surely reserve judgment until you have seen the official specs or read unbiased reviews.

-- John Nixon - Buffalo, NY - http://www.EagleLakeWoodworking.com

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#11 posted 02-07-2010 at 07:29 PM

Well, the guide posts certainly look smaller – that may just be a trick of perspective in your video.

Sorry, I do not believe the resin is up to the task. As a matter of fact, at one time Woodpecker offered a (cheaper) version of their Quiklift made of phenolic resin rather than aluminum. I understand they no longer sell it – why?

I did notice the main carriage was aluminum, but the router clamp is what supports the router weight and travels up and down with it – I would think about reversing the materials – use resin for the main carriage and make the router support aluminum.

As for the switches, my microwave doesn’t have them. I work in electronics and I know the limitations of that keyboard design – I was speaking strictly from my own experience with product designs that use it.

Look, my intent was not to second-guess your design. You obviously posted this with the intention of garnering some first impressions of it. My first impression is that you cut corners where you shouldn’t have. That’s only one man’s opinion; others will have different opinions.

-- "Find out what you cannot do and then go do it!"

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#12 posted 02-07-2010 at 08:11 PM

I’ve dealt with MLCS and they have great customer service , If there’s ever a problem they take care of it.

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

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#13 posted 02-07-2010 at 09:57 PM

I saw the video on your site where you build one. I was wondering at the time if you were going to commercialize it. So now the big question is price. I also hope MLCS has a PDF download of the user manual so we can see the instructions details. I usually like to read through those before making any purchasing decisions.

-- Failure is the road to success if you learn to learn from your mistakes - Vince, Greenville, SC

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SEE

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#14 posted 02-08-2010 at 05:35 PM

Hey John,

I’m really impressed with the new commercial version of your MRL. I’ve followed your progress over the past two years and really appreciate your attention to detail in the design and the specs of the MRL.

No disrespect intended to EEngineer, but I’m not in the least bit concerned with the control panel design. I’ve had both types of microwave control panels. My current microwave has the plastic overlay. It has lasted longer and much is easier to keep clean than the older type control panels that were the standard fare on microwaves in the old days. I much prefer the plastic overlay control panel on my current microwave, which is several years old now. I’ve every reason to think that I’ll be pleased with the control panel on “my” MRL.

I’m also not concerned with the phenolic resin motor mounts. My experience with phenolic resin, though in a different application, suggests that it will be more than “up to snuff” for the clamping application on the MRL.

The only thing that I don’t like about the new MRL is that I don’t have one yet! Anxiously awaiting more info and saving my bucks. Count me in for at least one of your MRL’s when MLCS offers it for sale! In fact, I may get two of them for my nearly finished new multi-router, router table station.

-- Build for the joy of it!

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#15 posted 02-08-2010 at 06:13 PM

John: congratulation on getting this far. I put the digital scale on my router lift but I didn’t got for the motorized lift portion yet. You might be getting me to go that way also.

-- I've been blessed with a father who liked to tinker in wood, and a wife who lets me tinker in wood. Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com †

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