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Making spoke wheels #2: Routing the rims

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Blog entry by Dutchy posted 06-08-2018 09:25 AM 1784 reads 0 times favorited 13 comments Add to Favorites Watch
« Part 1: Equipment Part 2 of Making spoke wheels series Part 3: The spokes »

Before looking at the pictures below please have a look at what equipment is used.

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#1 posted 06-08-2018 10:06 AM

I hope you’ve saved the saw dust for Ducky….

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#2 posted 06-08-2018 12:11 PM

Very interesting and great tools.

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#3 posted 06-08-2018 01:44 PM

machines are way to fancy for me …. but please keep up the great blogs …. it is very interesting to me to see how other people work on problems ….. GREAT BLOG :<))

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#4 posted 06-08-2018 03:36 PM


I hope you ve saved the saw dust for Ducky….

- crowie

It is Dutchy dust, no Ducky dust.

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#5 posted 06-08-2018 03:39 PM


machines are way to fancy for me …. but please keep up the great blogs …. it is very interesting to me to see how other people work on problems ….. GREAT BLOG :<))

- GR8HUNTER

It was last year I bought the drill stand after the old one which I had got from my father broke down. I had already a drill. The diveder and chuck are cheap far east ones. A milling machine is not common in woodwroking but can be very handy. You can do lot with it. The digital readout is an axtra which you don’t need, but very handy. BTW I also can use the chuck on my lathe.

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#6 posted 06-08-2018 05:56 PM

very interesting

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#7 posted 06-08-2018 06:31 PM

I’ll second that VERY INTERESTING!!!

18 wheels, Do I see an 18 wheeler in your future? LOL

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#8 posted 06-08-2018 07:26 PM


I ll second that VERY INTERESTING!!!

18 wheels, Do I see an 18 wheeler in your future? LOL

- htl

No 18 wheeler, but a 4×4 :). Two extra.

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#9 posted 06-08-2018 07:26 PM

I hope you ve saved the saw dust for Ducky….

- crowie

It is Dutchy dust, no Ducky dust.

- Dutchy


Now if you have a machine to convert sawdust to straw… I could use that for a soft landing of my eggs…

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Interesting set up. I am currently working on a milling table fit out for my lathe and drill press. I could see advantages of using this idea on my drill press. What speed do you run your router bit at? My drill has a top speed of 5,000 rpm.

I have made a Dremel to drill press adapter, however, the Dremel wont take “normal” router bits. I also made a Foredom/drill press adapter… the Foredom will take 1/4” router bits…
Somehow I think I can get the cutting end working.

Am I correct in surmising that it is the “Dividing attachment” that is controlling the rotation (as the retainer for the chuck)? Will need to look into a wooden jig equivalent (as I have a smallish chuck) or are they “relatively” cheap… Stability is the first thing that comes to mind…

Is the digital readout part of your milling table or did you retro fit it? While you said that digital is not necessary, for repeatability I think it’s a must have… You being into these things (digital add ons), any links for my further investigation (and UGH! reading)...

Many thanks for the ideas… off to the drawing board (SketchUP)!

PS. Millling table on the router could be worth looking into… will need to work on a cutting/chisel attachment mechanism for the milling table…. hmm!... all this thinking… I need a drink!

PPS.



- Dutchy

I SEE dust

and tomorrow I can say I SAW it!

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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#10 posted 06-08-2018 08:11 PM

I forgot you said something about making spoke wheels.

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#11 posted 06-09-2018 01:24 AM


Interesting set up. I am currently working on a milling table fit out for my lathe and drill press. I could see advantages of using this idea on my drill press. What speed do you run your router bit at? My drill has a top speed of 5,000 rpm.

I have made a Dremel to drill press adapter, however, the Dremel wont take “normal” router bits. I also made a Foredom/drill press adapter… the Foredom will take 1/4” router bits…
Somehow I think I can get the cutting end working.

Am I correct in surmising that it is the “Dividing attachment” that is controlling the rotation (as the retainer for the chuck)? Will need to look into a wooden jig equivalent (as I have a smallish chuck) or are they “relatively” cheap… Stability is the first thing that comes to mind…

Is the digital readout part of your milling table or did you retro fit it? While you said that digital is not necessary, for repeatability I think it s a must have… You being into these things (digital add ons), any links for my further investigation (and UGH! reading)...

Many thanks for the ideas… off to the drawing board (SketchUP)!

PS. Millling table on the router could be worth looking into… will need to work on a cutting/chisel attachment mechanism for the milling table…. hmm!... all this thinking… I need a drink!

PPS.


- Dutchy

I SEE dust

and tomorrow I can say I SAW it!

- LittleBlackDuck



Interesting set up. I am currently working on a milling table fit out for my lathe and drill press. I could see advantages of using this idea on my drill press. What speed do you run your router bit at? My drill has a top speed of 5,000 rpm.

I can use a drill (max about 2500 RPM) and a router (5000-20000 RPM) By changing this machines in the 43 EURO neck there is a wide RPM spectrum.

I have made a Dremel to drill press adapter, however, the Dremel wont take “normal” router bits. I also made a Foredom/drill press adapter… the Foredom will take 1/4” router bits…
Somehow I think I can get the cutting end working.

Consider a Kress Here about € 200 with a great range of collets up to 10 mm. If you like I can send you one. I don’t anything about import dutys in your country.

Am I correct in surmising that it is the “Dividing attachment” that is controlling the rotation (as the retainer for the chuck)? Will need to look into a wooden jig equivalent (as I have a smallish chuck) or are they “relatively” cheap… Stability is the first thing that comes to mind…

A dividing attachment isn’t common in woodworking. You have to search in metalworking equipment to find more about it. The divider I use is a cheap one which I bought for about € 80,—. Look at this or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mhT1a28qO0&t=12s or this one
In this video you can see exact the same tiltable one I have.

Is the digital readout part of your milling table or did you retro fit it? While you said that digital is not necessary, for repeatability I think it s a must have… You being into these things (digital add ons), any links for my further investigation (and UGH! reading)...

I did a retro fit. You don’t need a digital readout because there is a readout on the crancks. The benefits of the digital readout is the much easier zerro positioning and the values are not affected by backlash of the screw thread.

And here some rotary table chuck pictures ( I could not find a proper video)

And finaly Alex look for a crossing table also called milling table or x/y table.

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#12 posted 06-09-2018 02:06 AM


For all that….

- Dutchy


I thank you greatly and appreciate the depth of your response (Mrs. Dutchy may be suffering some TLC). It’s all these little snippets and “banter” that adds invaluable information to the “uneducated” (all be it from just lack of exposure by us amateurs).

I also curse you greatly for having the gadgets available that are not available here in Australia and our great government have ensured that it is now more difficult (as off 1st. July) if not impossible to obtain… (sorry that’s my government bashing splurge… for now… actually I’m not but who notices).

All these hints and tips will definitely be filed away for future permanent use. As I may have mentioned, I have no metallurgy experience (except for the shekels dropping out of my wallet), and all these blogs will enhance my scope of creativity. I have flagged these blogs and hope they will be re-viewable in the future if/when I can see a need for such a methodology (if not for the actual tools).

Not pissing in your pocket, but these tips and feedback to questions are invaluable… I give THANKS 2u.

PS. I BS a lot… but what I really want to say is… BIG thanks for enlightening my woodworking experience.

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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#13 posted 06-09-2018 02:08 AM


For all that….

- Dutchy

I thank you greatly and appreciate the depth of your response (Mrs. Dutchy may be suffering some TLC). It s all these little snippets and “banter” that adds invaluable information to the “uneducated” (all be it from just lack of exposure by us amateurs).

I also curse you greatly for having the gadgets available that are not available here in Australia and our great government have ensured that it is now more difficult (as off 1st. July) if not impossible to obtain… (sorry that s my government bashing splurge… for now… actually I m not but who notices).

All these hints and tips will definitely be filed away for future permanent use. As I may have mentioned, I have no metallurgy experience (except for the shekels dropping out of my wallet), and all these blogs will enhance my scope of creativity. I have flagged these blogs and hope they will be re-viewable in the future if/when I can see a need for such a methodology (if not for the actual tools).

Not pissing in your pocket, but these tips and feedback to questions are invaluable… I give THANKS 2u.

- LittleBlackDuck

What are shekels in a wallet?

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