Woo Hoo... I am just about as excited about this as I am about my new Jointer...

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Blog entry by Drew1House posted 05-11-2007 12:14 AM 2043 reads 0 times favorited 19 comments Add to Favorites Watch

OK guys… Buddies… Jockular types. First off I wan to clarify… I have just outfitted a new shop with all kinds of tools and toys. I am proud of it. I worked hard on it and I paid for the thing cash with money that I have saved up over the course of the past 5 years intending to get this shop running. I have made lists and reviewed tool purchases and crossed tools off my list as I have replaced them with new tools that have come out 2 and 3 times as the years have gone on getting ready for the day that I knew would come that I would have the place to have a shop.

These purchases (the tools) and actually the shopping for them have been very exciting for me. However some Jock on here has given me lotsa crap about what kind of flash in the pan kind of a guy I must be to on an apparent whim (in his mind) go and outfit a shop on a weekend. (total inaccuracy) I have new tools… some are replacements for old kick around contractor grade stuff (Table saw, Compressor, Drill Press etc) and some are new to me but used (Delta Thickness Planer, Delta Sanding Center) and some are brand new and have never been used and I have never used them and have no experience with them at all. (Powermatic PJ882 Jointer)

The thing is that someone on here messaged me with this “You flaunt the price of everything you buy and have. (I sort of have been as I have been trying to carefully spend my money and have been looking and focused on the deal) Everyone you even say hello to is all of a sudden your good buddy. (been trying to be friendly on here) You act like you know everything about everything and have no idea how wet behind the ears your posts make you look. (very possibly so… in many areas covered on this forum… I am super green… just not in every area) You’re the type that bursts into a room and is everyone’s pal and mentor, no matter how little time you’ve taken to develop those friendships. (Now how could someone know such a thing) I have met far to many used car salesmen (I think this is hurtful… to me and to used car salesmen) like yourself and quite frankly, they repulse me.”

This has made what for me has been a very exciting time kind of a downer… I have looked for those with my same interests in this sense to share this with (how often do you get to implement a dream you have planned for 5 years… and more importantly.. I know I am spending lots of money on woodworking tools. But… next month… a nice plane and wood for a project will be about all I can do on my hobby allowance as the budget will be spent.) I have very few people to share the excitement of creating this with. I don’t have many close friends who are woodworkers and interested in what I am doing. They could care less about a Jointer… Most have never heard of or seen one.

I was excited about putting together my dream shop and finding people to share this with but apparently have not communicated very well in that while I am somewhat green as far as many techniques go I am not totally new either thus while I don’t have projects I am excited about to post (cute jewelry boxes and the like.) My current project is the shop itself. I think sometimes I can add to others benefit. I may be a little rusty on my marquetry… but I know a little about cabinet making and do know that getting a new PJ882 for $1000 is newsworthy.

Well this was not the intent of the post… what I was going to say… (but had to preface with this multi paragraph explanation as I am paranoid about getting posts from someone about blabbing about what I purchased) Is this… I am very excited about my most recent acquisition! I got a lot on ebay that included the following magazines (and if I dare mention price I will say that i got them for less than $1 each!!! So Wooo Hoo… I am literally checking on the tracking every day…

Fine Woodworking THE ISSUES INCLUDED ARE: 4,8,11,14,17,20-22,25,28,30,33-36,38-66,68-90,92-116,118-154, AND 175.

Wood Magazine THE ISSUES INCLUDED ARE: 1,3,6,11-36,38-60,61-67,69-70,72-90,91-141,143-144,146,148-167.

Woodworkers Journal THE ISSUES INCLUDED ARE: 7/2,8/1-8/6,9/1-9/6,10/2-10/6,11/1-11/6,





Creative WW: 26 VARIOUS ISSUES FROM MAR 2000-MAR 2007.

Shop Notes: 37-42,44-51,53,57-61,63-66

For me… This is exciting…


-- Drew, Pleasant Grove, Utah

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#1 posted 05-11-2007 12:21 AM


I wouldn’t worry about what everyone else is saying and just follow your dreams. They’re only jealous that you are doing exactly what they want. Good luck with everything.


-- Kaleo ,

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Dick, & Barb Cain

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#2 posted 05-11-2007 12:27 AM

I’m happy for you, & your new shop Drew.
You must be on cloud nine. You should be able to produce now. Your very fortunate, so start having some fun.

Myself I have never had a complete shop. I’ve always made do with what I had.

-- -** You are never to old to set another goal or to dream a new dream ****************** Dick, & Barb Cain, Hibbing, MN.

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#3 posted 05-11-2007 12:41 AM

Been Making do with the shop being in an unfinished basement (that got finished when the kids came) the back patio (covered but tools either rusted or dissappeared, and the existing garage displacing my wifes car (she was not happy to see a new project start… I am excited… I am sure this is no where close to complete… Ill find the layout is not right etc… and have to revamp… But that is part of the fun right…


-- Drew, Pleasant Grove, Utah

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#4 posted 05-11-2007 01:13 AM

Hi Drew;
—-well it’s your dream….and a dream that you are living as it becomes true!

I don’t pay much attention to the noise of the dream-spoilers when they come around me. These are the ones who have before and still tell me, while wondering aloud about the money I’ve spent on ‘this’ or why do you spend so much ‘time’ doing it that way. However to tell you the truth, my feet are dancing and I’m excited, so if you don’t care about being excited with me, welllllllllll…....

I’m glad for you and keep that excitement up and go for it!!!

-- --frank, NH,

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#5 posted 05-11-2007 01:33 AM

I like that, Frank—my feet are dancing and if you don’t want to dance with me, leave the dance floor :)

We each walk our own path and join forums for our own reasons. That is life. Dance if you want to. Wallflower, if you want to… and I guess complain if you want to… And the rest of us will decide whether we want to dance with you, watch your dance, or complain about your technique :)

Drew, I have enjoyed being part of your journey, even though I haven’t commented much. Everyone, I am sure, at one time or another has dreamed of the perfect shop—you have taken the steps to make it happen!!! You should be very proud of your accomplishments. Congrats.

And the magazines. What a deal. congrats on that as well.

((putting on my dancing shoes and taking a spin around the dance floor with you))

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (

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#6 posted 05-11-2007 04:23 AM

Drew: I think many of use are a little boastful when it comes to what we’ve been able to purchase or find a great deal on.

I for one are glad with you, I’m like you. I’d like other woodworkers to be living next door. But they don’t. Our woodworking club makes toys that we give to charities at Christmas time and that’s an every Wednesday affair. I enjoy that time with the guys and gal when she shows up. There are three people that received the Presidents award for over 4000hrs of donated time. So they have put a lot of effort into keeping busy. But I’m having fun.

I hope you have a great time making dust and then cleaning it up.

-- I've been blessed with a father who liked to tinker in wood, and a wife who lets me tinker in wood. Southern Delaware soon moving to Virginia †

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#7 posted 05-11-2007 05:28 AM

Congrats on the magazine score.

I’m sorry that someone has decided to take the low road toward you. Jealousy is no excuse for personal attacks. I’ve been interested in your shop setup and find your posts about available deals helpful, although since I live on the other side of the country I won’t be able to take advantage of them.

-- Chelle

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#8 posted 05-11-2007 11:49 AM

“Sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never harm me” that’s what my mom always told me and she was right. You noticed that a majority of us LJ’s just want to share and read to gain more woodworking knowledge. It sounds like you had your priorities in the right spot, the kids, now it’s time for yourself and all of us here in LJ world. Good for you!!!!

-- " All Things At First Appear Difficult"

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Mark A. DeCou

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#9 posted 05-11-2007 03:28 PM

we are as excited for you, as you are. Congratulations. Now, go make some dust!

-- Mark DeCou - American Contemporary Craft Artisan -

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Dick, & Barb Cain

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#10 posted 05-11-2007 04:19 PM

The person who PM’d you should be ashamed of doing this sort of thing.
This site doesn’t need anyone like that.

-- -** You are never to old to set another goal or to dream a new dream ****************** Dick, & Barb Cain, Hibbing, MN.

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#11 posted 05-11-2007 04:47 PM

I have enjoyed hearing about your journey Drew, and hope to hear more. I would not worry about what the others are saying, just continue on. I, for one, would love to be able to build a shop and equip it the way you have.

We all have a lot to offer each other on here, so do not give up or quit posting. We want to hear how it goes.

-- Bill, Turlock California,

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#12 posted 05-11-2007 05:39 PM

In my experience, the other person always has something to teach me – a gift for me from God. It’s hard to be open to it from every person I meet. I often fail in my arrogance/pride/prejudice, but I keep striving to put myself in the place where God makes me humble. Arrogance can be so hurtful to the other and it deprives me of the gift/blessing God has for me in the other. I’m sorry for the pain of having someone rain on your celebration. I know how that feels.

Thanks for sharing. Honestly, when reading your posts, I have thought, “Must be nice!” but in the next thought God says, “You could do it, too, (for your dreams) if you worked as hard and had the discipline and vision he has!” You’ve taught me something more about focus, discipline and hard work. I admire that you did it by saving as well. A “budget” is something millions in this country need. I’m sure you could have pulled a card out of your pocket and gone the “instant gratification” route. But you didn’t. Thanks, and enjoy your achievement.

-- Paul, Texas

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#13 posted 05-11-2007 07:00 PM

Thanks for your encouragement and kind words… I will tell you… my feelings are not totally decimated… however my fingers are a bit slower as I have realized that while I may have a comment about a good deal on a tool taken as just a part of who I am in real life if that is all I bring up on here that is who I become on the forum…

It is a shame and a nice thing all at the same time. I find it interesting that those who I would call friends on here due to common interests might never be friends of mine in real life due to age differences, family, location for sure, or weird annoying personality quirks… It has really allowed me to see that in every person there are things that can be appreciated… even if not by me.

Moreover… there may be some things about the someone in front of me in line at the grocery store that we totally have in common and could become friends over yet I think we often don’t have the patience or foresight to get over in order to dig a little deeper and find out who they really are.

We have this stupid filtering system we have built that says “I don’t like smokers” or I don’t like heavy people” or people with Mohawks or whatever… yet it prevents us sometimes from learning about other peoples positive qualities. I think it is better to look for similarities rather than differences to choose our peers… thus our joining the forum. It is a shame when people look for reasons to not like people even on-line.


BTW… I am still checking the mail… they were sent media mail so it may take a few days. I am heading to Costco today for gobs of binders… I have to get these somewhat presentable prior to dragging them home or the wife who is a neat freak (and I appreciate that about her) will disappear them while I am working…

-- Drew, Pleasant Grove, Utah

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#14 posted 05-11-2007 07:37 PM

Drew, I am sorry that someone was so hard on you. Congratulations on your find and on pursuing your dreams. I support you and all the LumberJocks who are sharing and learning from one another…that’s what this site is all about, but like any family, sometimes there may be some jealousy,a miscommunication or temporary spat. We must realize that and forgive and move on as we would in our own families.


-- Jesus is Lord!

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#15 posted 05-15-2007 06:26 AM

Drew there are always a few in this world that are never very happy of supportive. Iam happy for you and wish you nothing but the best. I to am starting to put my shop together slowly and I am having a ball. I think the majority of the people on this sight a great. Good Luck bill p

-- Billp

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