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Blog entry by DocSavage45 posted 11-08-2014 10:18 PM 1664 reads 0 times favorited 20 comments Add to Favorites Watch

I’ve been spending most of my non working time rehabbing my windows on the second floor of my Country style Queen Anne house. sometimes working from the inside and often working off a tall 2 story ladder. A necessary task that I have neglected for 14 years! The project here is my last window for the season. It’s going to snow here in Southern MN and temperatures will drop.

This is a box of sorts, with glass on two sides. It replaces a real catastrophe in the laundry room which had a plastic/vinyl window insert for the dryer exhaust and a storm window which was partially open. A lot of cold MN winter wind passed through there. I decided to do a double pane window from materials I had. It is not used for anything but letting light into a small laundry room. Dallas a fellow lumberjock has already informed me of my folly, but I couldn’t afford a thermopane glass for the window. Yep, already having humidity forming on the inside due to temperature differences.

The first picture is the finished product that I painted with one coat of oil based primer, two coats of 123 water borne primer and a top coat of water borne satin. Yep, a lot of paint! And I hope I won’t have to do it again in my remaining lifetime. LOL! (unless I put in thermopane glazing)

The next picture is the cedar frame which is found wood from a dumpster from around 13 years ago! Had slots and plexiglass which I thought could be useful for jigs. I used my router table to do a half inch quarter round-over on the edges of the cedar and then used my table saw to cut the quarter round away for later re installing.

Third picture is assembly of the “BOX” using lap joints, glue and mechanical fasteners. Couldn’t find my countersink so I used a large drill bit. I didn’t think cedar was so brittle, but no one will see it? Cut some 2×4’s square to insure the clamping would be square as I’ve not bought or made some clamping jigs. It worked!

Next is the Seal Coat to insure moisture resistance

Next one coat of oil based primer to fill the pours, and two coats of Zissner’s 123 primer. Finally filled the mounting screw holes and put a satin topcoat on the box/window, and used 3/4 18 gage pin nails and 25 year caulk to seal the outside of the window panes

Mounted the window with some adjustment, filled the seams with caulk and finished! Going to snow Sunday night!

Looks like I might get to play with my new chainsaw and my walnut and maple tree cuttings/logs, before it gets too-cold.

All comments, critiques, are welcome.

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher



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#1 posted 11-08-2014 11:34 PM

Pretty creative work Tom

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#2 posted 11-08-2014 11:37 PM

Hi Tom, the fact you don’t have a vacuum between the panels, I think is your problem, and will continue to be, in which case if you don’t alter it, you are going to have a lovely green colour growing in between your glass panels.

I appreciate that cost is a factor, so I would be inclined to make your inner panel removable if it is easily accessible from inside. In winter, have the second panel fitted to retain heat, removing it occasionally to clean, and remove it for the summer months, to allow the frame to dry out.

-- If you want the rainbow, you got to put up with the rain - Steven Wright

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#3 posted 11-08-2014 11:38 PM

i saw the word box and almost did a flip, was it true, doc was entering the world of box makers, i was so excited…but then….aw shoot, a window for the laundry room, you sure tricked me on that one…, but i do have a few ideas…i think you could make a real pretty box, put it inside the laundry window and have it there for reflection…a box in box…you could call the box Jack…then you would have a Jack in the Box…what an amazing idea…its also a physiological play…you would be inspired all the time to make boxes that could be seen through…this way you would be able to know what people are thinking…i might be onto something here, maybe one for the books…:)

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#4 posted 11-08-2014 11:39 PM

Jim,

Thanks

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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#5 posted 11-08-2014 11:44 PM

Phil,

Ohhh! Pretty Green! It’s going to have to wait. It’s sealed with caulk and trim to last. LOL! I’ll keep an eye on it.

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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#6 posted 11-08-2014 11:50 PM

Grizz,

PSYCH! It is a box. No lid. LOL.

Getting too cold here so I might just have to make a box like the big guys??? Weather bug promising 6 to 8 inches. I’ve not even picked up my walnut droppings. Hope to get that done Sunday.

Thanks for the look see. :)

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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#7 posted 11-09-2014 12:25 AM

Tom
What you built looks real nice and clean and is a good improvement even so the glass may become an issue .
You did a great job of reusing material and got it done just in time for winter.
Look around the net for possible solution regarding the glass ,on many old houses I have seen there are ventilation holes which can be closed by a flap in the winter and that may work for you .

Klaus

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#8 posted 11-09-2014 12:37 AM

Klaus,

Thanks!

I may have to wait until Spring, ” good lord willin and the creek don’t rise!” I sealed it tight but didn’t think about the condensation. Ihave more window issues like old wooden storm windows that I’ll redesign as the metal storms would have to be custom for my house. I like Phil’s recommendation but it will have to do for now. Think I have a couple of box ideas, and some class acts to follow. LOL!

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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#9 posted 11-09-2014 12:44 AM

I used to make insulated thermal pane windows for a glass company. The aluminum spacers we put in between the 2 panes of glass were filled with little desiccant balls to absorb the moisture.
If you could introduce desiccant into the interior somehow that might solve the problem.
I understand whats done is done but maybe food for thought for the next ones.

-- Because I'm gone, that's why!

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#10 posted 11-09-2014 12:51 AM

Iwud4u,

Thanks! I’ll add it to my spring do over.

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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#11 posted 11-09-2014 08:22 AM

I’ll be over in a week or so to help you get rid of that messy Walnut and Maple you are going to cut down.
Wouldn’t want to clutter up the yard, now would you?

-- "They don't want it perfect - they want it SPECIAL"

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#12 posted 11-09-2014 05:01 PM

Tom, it certainly is a step up from vinyl and the cedar casing should withstand the moisture. Nice work.

-- Lee - Northern idaho~"If the women don't find you handsome, at least they ought to find you handy"~ Red Green

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#13 posted 11-09-2014 05:39 PM

UncleStumpy,

Aurora IL to Saint James MN. Hope you have gas money. LOL! The log cutoffs from my tree are in my truck bed, but I still have to clean up the droppings ( walnuts, stems, leaves)cause this place could really be a tree nursery if left to itself. Not laughing here.

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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#14 posted 11-09-2014 05:42 PM

Lee,

Thanks. I thought so but didn’t figure in temp differences, humidity, and downsides. Hind sight is twenty twenty. I have so much I should be walking backwards?

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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#15 posted 11-09-2014 11:52 PM

Great to see you getting on with some wood therapy.

-- Andy Halewoodworker. You can't finish if you don't finish. So finish it, because finish is everything.

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