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Blog entry by DocSavage45 posted 07-15-2014 05:34 PM 1244 reads 0 times favorited 14 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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Hey LJ’s,

Been awhile since posting as I have been finishing up my house windows rehab for my second story for my 140 year old house.

I’m re purposing one section of my shop bench into a hybrid wood workers ( in my case wood-butcher’s) bench. My plan was to make it mobile as my shop is getting smaller and smaller. Where did these big tools come from? Oh yeah I finally assembled them, and I purchased a used cabinet saw.

The bench is to be mobile as are most of the other shop equipment to facilitate set up for different projects.

The woodworking stores sell a wood bench wheels set to put on the legs, but they aren’t cheap and I was trying to do this without spending any more money. I’d purchased some locking casters (wheel and pivot) that have a stem to bolt onto metal stands. ( Initially for my Delta Scroll saw Rehab) The castors are well made ( 4” and @ 400 pounds load,or less) Figured I’d use star nuts as I did for my rehabbed office chair. Have you tried to find 1/2 inch star nuts? Not at my Farm&Fleet Ace which had a wide assortment, and not on Amazon.

An Ebay seller “Handtrucksandcastors” was really prompt, and professional, with tracking and notification in getting the star nuts to me. I’d use them again.

The bench legs are 2×4’s with a 2×6 brace. The star nuts wouldn’t screw easily onto the threaded shaft of the castor which required some threading. Using my small sledge hammer to anchor the star nuts I was able to get them set and I got the castors screwed in. All good, right?

I’m doing this with legs in the air with bench being built upside down on saw horses. The bench has become heavy due to reinforcements added to the table top for bench dogs. My wife helped to right the bench and took some pictures for my story of my successful bench build.

The castors were too high and too flimsy only having about 3/4 of an inch in the star nut holding the bench which wobbled! Great for hand planing. Right!

Tilted the bench on it’s side and with a few taps removed my great idea.

Going out to the shop to mount the big Jorgenson vise and do some shiming for the legs on my “non mobile” bench.

Comments welcome. :<)

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher



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Monte Pittman

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#1 posted 07-15-2014 06:53 PM

We’ve all had some of “those ” ideas. They become funny stories that we tell our children.

You continue to make great progress though. Keep it up.

-- Mother Nature created it, I just assemble it.

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DocSavage45

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#2 posted 07-15-2014 07:19 PM

Thanks Monte,

You’re always supportive! I would say making 2 steps forward and one step back. LOL!

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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Ocelot

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#3 posted 07-15-2014 07:50 PM

I have ordered from the same seller. I was satisfied with the castors I received – although they are apparently quite different from what you have. I mounted my lumber rack on 12 1200lb castors. It seems quite stable.

These were the 6” steel wheels on ball bearing plates.

Here’s the lumber rack project.

http://lumberjocks.com/projects/92622

I would think for a bench, you would need some mechanism to put down feet an left the castors off the floor while working.

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ejvc

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#4 posted 07-15-2014 08:15 PM

Well – at least you didn’t break it while you were making your clever mistakes. I’m sure you will figure out a way.

Thanks for all your comments over on my blog.

-- Building stuff with my daughter (6). Pretty new to woodworking, I mostly sew...

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#5 posted 07-15-2014 08:29 PM

Good to read your progress. I hope you’ll post that bench as a project. ;-)
Last year I made a heavy duty shop cart with three casters… It was super-tippy. Well, learned that. Added the fourth caster later.
Shipwright used a very clever caster allocation you may consider:
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-- What are those few hours of mine compared to those decades Mother Nature has put in it!

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DocSavage45

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#6 posted 07-15-2014 08:58 PM

Ocelot,

Looks like your lumber rack is as large as your garage doors! LOL! Thanks for your comment!

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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DocSavage45

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#7 posted 07-15-2014 09:00 PM

ejvc,

Going to step back. Get some money and figure out hopefully an economic solution, and smaller wheels. LOL!

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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DocSavage45

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#8 posted 07-15-2014 09:03 PM

Johnny,

Looks like your base is metal? My wheels were too high( although commercial) and my post on the castor too short. Might make a little platform to put under it like a mechanics creeper. Just a thought. Thanks for you comments. How’s the baby situation? :<)

Yes Shipwright did make the suggestion on a previous question. I’m going to have to look into that. Back to finishing the vise mounting.

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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#9 posted 07-16-2014 08:49 AM

Mine’s spruce. It has 36 screws (5/16” x 8”) though… The only pic I have right now is this: LOL

Mama’s happy, baby’s happy so papa’s happy, too. :-) Haven’t been in the shop lately though. :-/

-- What are those few hours of mine compared to those decades Mother Nature has put in it!

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#10 posted 07-16-2014 02:12 PM

Hi Tom, I had a similar problem, with my old Bench in Spain, I overcame this, by cutting the legs off my bench by the height of the castors.

I attached locking casters to one end, having bolted a 3”x 3” which acted both as a leg brace and support for the castors.

To stop the table wandering, at the other end I put a 3”x 3” leg brace, and attached another underneath to bring it to the same height as the castors which by luck were also 3”.

I then mounted a section of broom handle, mounted between two sections of 2”x 4” bolted to the legs (at the non-castor end) to make it easier to move the bench.

As long as I remembered to unlock the castors before trying to move it, I had no problems…lol

Good Luck!

-- If you want the rainbow, you got to put up with the rain - Steven Wright

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#11 posted 07-16-2014 05:14 PM

Johnny,

I reassembled mine with the screws I had used to build the old bench. Didn’t count. Used some glue to attach 2×8’s to the underside of the 3/4 inch plywood top. My original bench is built with a frame similar to a deck or torsion box. Didn’t want to buy new materials to make a more traditional bench. Maybe later, but my wife would like me to make some furniture. LOL!

Nice pile of wood!

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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DocSavage45

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#12 posted 07-16-2014 05:18 PM

Phil,

I have some similar thoughts though it might be awhile as the castors were too high and not enough shaft for stability. My wallet is empty as well.

If my practice gets a few new clients I might be ableto consider options. Right now it’s going to be a heavy”fixed” bench! LOL!

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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#13 posted 08-02-2014 05:36 PM

Can’t wait to see the final outcome Tom

-- Randy - If I'm not on LJ's then I'm making Saw Dust. Please feel free to visit my store location at http://www.facebook.com/randy.blackstock.custom.wood.designs

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#14 posted 08-02-2014 09:35 PM

Randy,

Thanks for checking in. Only had a couple of comments on that &**^%% scroll saw. My $199 dollar vise started rusting! I have pictures but haven’t posted. Works for me..functional. wheels idea had problems. Had to move on quickly to making a wooden awning to cover my inexpensive AC unit, with a poor lover design, that is in my shop window.

Then the upstairs commode started leaking down the wall. I’m doing the floor to open it up for the plumber on Monday as I did what I can do but it needs a professional fix. Cast Iron flange is broke.

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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