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Shop Notes #10: Thank You Randy! (Blackie the bandsaw box maker)

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Blog entry by DocSavage45 posted 03-04-2014 12:06 AM 927 reads 0 times favorited 19 comments Add to Favorites Watch
« Part 9: 2 steps forward and one step back. Part 10 of Shop Notes series Part 11: Have you ever had a good idea that wasn't a good idea? »

Just a quick thankyou for a suggestion given to me by Randy when a few blogs ago I asked “what do you do about rust?”

Randy (Blackie) suggested a bucket and a couple of Gallons of cider vinegar to soak my clamps in that were rusting …just sitting around!

I thought I’d try regular white vinegar on my planes that I bought on Ebay as I had been sanding and rubbing with steel wool.

Took a zip lock plastic bag and put the plane irons and other rusted small parts like the chip breakers and adjusting screws covered the parts, squeezed the air out and put the bag in a plastic tray and covered it w/ another plastic bag to keep odor down.

IT WORKED! And it did a really good job. Put more plane parts in the bag for 24 hrs, and the vinegar is still doin its job. Had to use a little steel wool but SO Much Easier!

So I’m thanking Randy and sharing what works. Nice when it works!

Do you have any simple shop remedies to share?

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher



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Monte Pittman

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#1 posted 03-04-2014 12:19 AM

I have used coke (the soda) for cleaning rust off items as well.

-- Mother Nature created it, I just assemble it.

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DocSavage45

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#2 posted 03-04-2014 12:22 AM

Monte,

Staying warm? I have heard of that one, I think it has to do with citrus in the cola ( LOL!)

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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#3 posted 03-04-2014 01:39 PM

I have another method… I use my clamps regularly. :-P LOL

-- What are those few hours of mine compared to those decades Mother Nature has put in it!

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Blackie_

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#4 posted 03-04-2014 03:34 PM

Thanks for the nice words and for the tip of the hat Tom, actually the apple cider vinegar is stronger then white vinegar and does a better job in de-rusting and cleaning, it can be found with the white vinegar on the shelves at the grocery store. As for as odor goes, you can just sit it all outside or in the garage and let it sit for a couple days.

Here is a video

-- Randy - If I'm not on LJ's then I'm making Saw Dust. Please feel free to visit my store location at http://www.facebook.com/randy.blackstock.custom.wood.designs

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DocSavage45

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#5 posted 03-04-2014 05:02 PM

Johnny! LOL! You are spot on with that comment. But we do have an issue around here with changing moisture conditions. I have two humidifiers going now, and it’s still pretty dry. In the summer or rainy times the concrete will sweat. My old AC unit is not strong enough for the shop area. I bought some Bloe Shield (sp?) wich is supposed to be the best stuff. I blogged before about setting a jar on my perfect bandsaw, and made a rust spot because I left it there. I made a mistake when building of not sealing the floors. Might do that if you have concrete floors in your new shop.

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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#6 posted 03-05-2014 08:39 AM

I knew I was being unfair, but twas worth the chuckling, wasn’t it? :-D
You were spot on with yours, too. Life is even funnier than we can think of. LOL
The new shop does have concrete floor… Uneven, unlevel, unun, ununun… and it’s sweating even in February…
I really don’t know what I could do with the floor – within a reasonable budget. Maybe vinegar… LOL LOL LOL

-- What are those few hours of mine compared to those decades Mother Nature has put in it!

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hans2wiz

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#7 posted 03-05-2014 03:08 PM

I have used apple cider with many rusted handplanes. Soak 1-2 days and even paint comes easier down. And this stuff is usable many-many times. But don’t forget to clean all those parts with water and baking soda mix. It is like neutralizer.

-- -- Hanno -- small steps, long way to go

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#8 posted 03-05-2014 04:48 PM

Molasses and water. Ten parts water and one part syrup. let the part sit a week.

-- Superdav "No matter where you go - there you are." http://chiselandforge.com

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DocSavage45

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#9 posted 03-05-2014 05:04 PM

Johnny,

My hindsight, re: shop floors. I bought a sealer for concrete which is supposed to go into the voids and seal it. Water based. On another part of my shop, last room added and a recent build, I used 2 part epoxy paint. Also put it on a slab I poured on the outside. (always in the sun) The new room is doing well( the floor) while the outside slab pealed off. Would recomend you do this before putting your electrical or shop equipment in the space. Wish I had. :-(((

Don’t know how how or wet it is there but I have a 140 year old house with sand stone walls, and a well (capped) near the house. I have two dehumidifiers running. Also if I can get the money, I plan to get a new more efficient air conditioner for the shop area.

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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DocSavage45

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#10 posted 03-05-2014 05:07 PM

Hans,

Randy(Blackie) suggested a You Tube video about the apple cider. I understand about the baking soda for neutralization. Thanks, I will remember that. LOL!

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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#11 posted 03-05-2014 05:09 PM

Dave,

When looking on that You Tube page I saw the molasses thing. Wonder if it would work straight up on surface rust on a vehicle or saw table? Thanks for the additional input!

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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#12 posted 03-05-2014 06:46 PM

It’s wet only around the doors. Thanks for the advice, I’ll share the final solution when I get there.

-- What are those few hours of mine compared to those decades Mother Nature has put in it!

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Dave

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#13 posted 03-11-2014 11:10 AM

Doc I do believe it would.
But it would be a sticky mess.
I need to get me 5 gallons of this stuff and test it.
Just imagine a bucket you drop your rusty tools in. Come back a month later and there whistle clean and tasty to.

-- Superdav "No matter where you go - there you are." http://chiselandforge.com

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Blackie_

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#14 posted 03-11-2014 12:25 PM

I watched the video with using Molasses and water and both methods the one I suggested and the one David proposed seem to be about the same, I am curious though as to why the video showing the Molasses method had comments blocked? Also what is in Molasses that has the cleaning agent in it?

-- Randy - If I'm not on LJ's then I'm making Saw Dust. Please feel free to visit my store location at http://www.facebook.com/randy.blackstock.custom.wood.designs

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#15 posted 03-11-2014 04:03 PM

Me too, but I am a confirmed fan of cider vinegar Randy. Bought some for comparison. Cleaned imbedded rust off my current 18 inch scroll saw table rehab project and some serious rust on hand plane blades. I used paper towels soaked in the cider vinegar and a wet cloth on top. Didn’t have a container that wide. Put it in heavy trash bag and in a room without traffic. Had to use a little rubbing, scrubbing and rinsing. Then some polishing compound and a coat of wax.

Metal is rust free but dull. Will be doing some extra fine sandpaper polishing later.

Thanks again.

Randy maybe Googling it will provide an answer?

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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