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Blog entry by Dennisgrosen posted 1268 days ago 6433 reads 2 times favorited 22 comments Add to Favorites Watch

Many times I had pointed people to Roy Underhills vidio clip about a Viking tool chest

http://www.pbs.org/woodwrightsshop/video/2800/2812.html

and was proud as only a Dane can bee that we had such a treassurre in our country
all becourse Roy said in the Vidio it was a Danish farmer who ploughed it up and since the first time
I did saw the vidio I have try´d to hunt the chest down so I cuold see it sorry L J I have seemed to
misguided you a little and I´m truly sorry for that

I just read an E-mail to day I got from Roy Underhill that write me a very freindly answer to me
on my question´s about the tool chest and it did give me the answer to why I cuoldn´t find
the chest in Denmark and the museum folk´s on Roskilde Viking Museum hadn´t no clue
beside it could be from the Oseberg boat in Oslo Norway
understandble from the answer Roy Underhill send me
since the farmer lived on an Island with the name Gotland on the east side of Sweden
even though Sweden once was a part of Denmark and there for can understand the
little fail they made in the vidio :-)
but as I remember my history or lack of …lol
one thousend years ago Gotland was never a part of it and was a sovereign state and rich
becourse they had learned to trade with both europe and baltic country´s and the country´s behind
the baltic´s that we not so long ago called Sovjet

the Viking´s did travelled to the far east too but that is another history :-)

here is the link to get the real answer´s sofare about the Viking toolchest

http://www.netlabs.net/~osan/Mastermyr/

and here is another private site but with some realy heavy knowledge in about the different things from the periode incl. the different chest´s with or with out tools

clic on KIG IND

http://pws.homepage.dk/Vikingeliv/Vikingeliv_Indledning.htm

take care
Dennis



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steliart

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#1 posted 1268 days ago

Wow that is fantastic info you put for us here Dennis.
Thank you
Steli

-- Stelios L.A. Stavrinides: - I am not so rich to buy cheap tools, but... necessity is the mother of inventions - http://www.steliart.com --

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Don

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#2 posted 1268 days ago

Very fascinating info Dennis. Woodwright is the best wood working show out there and that was the most interesting episode I’ve seen.

-- Don - I wood work if I could. Redmond WA.

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TopamaxSurvivor

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#3 posted 1267 days ago

Thanks Dennis, interesting. WE will forgive you for confusing us. It is easily done, trust me :-))

-- "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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Jim Bertelson

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#4 posted 1267 days ago

Hey there, you still grubbing around in old tools? I have been working too hard, and trying to complete a couple of shop projects. Very soon now, I have to take a break from the shop reorganization and actually make a real project….....(-:

You know, in about 3 or 4 months…....(-:

......always interesting to see how they constructed things millenia ago. When I was growing up, I always assumed they did everything rough hewn, with crude tools. But once you get a close up of what they built, you know they had to have a lot of specialized tools and devices.

5 deg F here, -15 deg C….....pretty cold. But it does warm up in the day. Pretty soon we will have a warm week or two and everything will melt…......

On call this weekend….......

Jim

-- Jim, Anchorage Alaska

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#5 posted 1267 days ago

hey Jim nice to see you on the line , we nealy have forgotten how you look …LOL
that is one of those things that has amazed me more or less since one of the first years
when we was dragged in a bus to have a trip to Mosegård museum in Århus (Aarhus)
can´t remember if it was 2-3-or 4 grade and they have a camp every year now
where people from all over europe come and have this viking camp making and sell things
to all the visitor and a group of them even make battleplays on and of horses
to show how and to try to find the way the Vikings did make things and fight

that is pretty cold if there is some wind then …..Brrrrrr
I have to ask what is – 20 and -30 in Fahrenheit

you don´t have to make a real big beautyfull project before you can post one
you already have plenty project´s you just have to copy from the blogs to project
havn´t you seen how popolar shopprojects is ….. well I know … once again I did it … LOL

Dennis

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Dennisgrosen

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#6 posted 1267 days ago

forgot to say we nearly have spring this weekend with +12 Deg. C.

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Jim Bertelson

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#7 posted 1267 days ago

Well I am not exactly sure what you are asking, so here is the whole kit and kaboodle, you know, the whole enchilada….....errr…......the whole cheese….........(-:

I have a little program that displays the picture with one click…......that’s how I compare F and C.

...........off to work for a bit…....

Jim

-- Jim, Anchorage Alaska

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Dennisgrosen

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#8 posted 1267 days ago

thank´s Jim …. well how shuold you know what I meen when only the half is written … sorry

have a great sonday :-)
and say hello to all around you from us incl. the bears … :-)

Dennis

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stefang

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#9 posted 1266 days ago

Thanks for explaining where the actual toolbox find was Dennis. I think you can still be proud, as I’m sure there were Danes with similar tools and skills. They would need them to create all the things used by people in the Viking era in all of the Scandinavian countries. Personally I am amazed at the diversity and sophistication of the tools found in this box. It does show that some basic tools were already optimized back then, and that improvements since are more due to better materials, etc., but otherwise they are still basically the same. I also think much of the tool designs probably originated in the middle east and that some of that technology returned with the Vikings who had travelled there. Also thanks for the toolbox link which I have bookmarked.

I find this ancient woodworking extremely fascinating and I wonder how many of the old skills are still being practiced with similar tools use in those days.

Also my thanks to Jim who has provided us with the conversion chart. there is a formula for converting, but I usually forget it every time I need it. Converting without a chart is : F=C x 9/5 + 32. and *C=(F-32) x 5/9.

-- Mike, an American living in Norway.

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Jim Bertelson

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#10 posted 1266 days ago

Dennis and Mike
I made that chart in Excel over a year ago, using the formula that you quoted, Mike. I didn’t even have to look that formula up, it is imprinted in my brain from my early college days in physics. I made the chart mostly for talking to you two guys on LJ’s. Then I just took a screen capture of it. I wrote a little program years ago that will display a picture with a click on an icon. With a click of a button, I can make it stay on top of all other programs.

4 deg F ( – 15.6 C) here this morning. It is 46 deg F (7.8 C) in La Connor, Washington where we bought a vacation home recently. If the tulips are out when we are there in late April, I will get some pictures. They grow them for bulbs in the farms surround ing much of La Conner.

Off today, since I was on call this weekend. It wasn’t too bad, so I got some work done on my project table base. Should get more done today.

Jim

-- Jim, Anchorage Alaska

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swirt

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#11 posted 1266 days ago

Good bit of research you uncovered there Dennis. Sorry you can’t claim to be a long lost descendant and rightful heir to this toolbox ;) I think you’d need a lot more citric acid .

-- Galootish log blog, http://www.timberframe-tools.com

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#12 posted 1266 days ago

Swirt :
don´t worry I have p-p-p-p-p-plenty of it .. last time I was in Aarhus with my duoghter I bought
3 kg of it from the place where one of my sisters is the headmanager over 35 ladie´s
and brought it home with the last tools … LOL
and I think when I can afford it I will sett an acientditective on it and see if there is a tiny little chance
I cuold throw in some mud with a claim to the chest…... LOL no the laws in Skandinavia protects find
like theese

Jim :
great to hear you get some shop time .. you have to start to think of your self and let the youngs
take those long shifts and thank´s once more for the chart . here we had 43-47 very low clouds
and rain all day…. one of those days that realy can slam you down to the basement…..
Oh .. yah thats right that is where the shop is …. LOL

Mike :
you are so right about the tools and matter of fact I even think all the iron was something they
have traded to get hands on I know there is iron in Sweden but back then nearly all iron
did came from europe as I know of

I just got my second mail from the viking museum in Roskilde or shuold I say answer to
the infomation about the chest I sent to them with the link and they were realy thankfull
for what I have done for them when I exposed there site on L J :-)
and he said the chest deffently look simular to the Oseberg chest so I gess there is two of them
well I don´t know if there is tools in the Oseberg chest…... something for you to dig out :-)
and he send me another link if I maybee was interressed in more info about the Vikingtime
it shuold be about some reconstructed pieces from the time periode
just clic on KIG IND its a pdf file and there is other links to some museums on the front page
http://pws.homepage.dk/Vikingeliv/Vikingeliv_Indledning.htm

take care
Dennis

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TopamaxSurvivor

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#13 posted 1266 days ago

Thanks for the link Dennis. Most museums just give you a litttle bait, no pictures of any displays or atrifacts. The writing looks like my English typing when I was OD on Topamax ;-))

Jim, That is interesting that yiou come south for vacation home in WA. Everyone here goes to AZ ;-)

Here is what teh bulb farmers were doing last year http://gardentenders.com/members/TopamaxSurvivor/blog/1700
not sure what the deal is, but about 2/3 of the farms have gone to other crops. 20 years ago the w;hole vally looked like this instead of just a few spots.

-- "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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Dennisgrosen

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#14 posted 1266 days ago

even the danish mueseum can only give a hint
allso in there displaymontre its only a hint just mosgaard museum alone have over a million artifacts
in the storiage rooms but all our mueseums try to make 4 to 6 bigger speciel exebitions every year

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TopamaxSurvivor

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#15 posted 1266 days ago

Mike, there is the bucket about 3/4 teh way down on the left side. http://pws.homepage.dk/Vikingeliv/VirtuelMuseum/Thorshavn/album/index.html

-- "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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