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Restoring Hand Planes.. My methods #6: Stanley Bailey #6 complete restore w pics!

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Blog entry by Dan posted 03-08-2011 05:49 PM 17906 reads 1 time favorited 28 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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After many weeks of hunting and bidding on Ebay I was finally able to win an auction for a Stanley #6 at a decent price. The #6 planes usually sell somewhere around the 50 dollar range and I got this one for 38 dollars. My goal is to someday have the whole set of Stanley bench planes #1 through #8. I am only 3 shy of my goal excluding the 4 1/2, 5 1/4 and 5 1/2. I still need 1, 2 and 8. I don’t see 1 or 2 ending up in my collection anytime soon but the hunt is on for the #8! Stay tuned!

The #6 I got was in really good shape so it wasn’t to hard of a restore. The most time consuming part was the sole. It is actually a 6C so it has groves on the bottom. The groves were pretty clogged up with dirt. I used my Dremmel tool with wire brush to get most of it out and then did the rest by hand with tooth brush and Q-tips.

For this plane I tried something new for the wood knob and tote. I had been sanding the handles starting with 180 grit and working up to 800 grit. It was a lot of work and I noticed the Rosewood turning a really dark almost black like color after applying a finish. With this planes Rosewood I eliminated sand paper and used abrasive pads only. I started with the green abrasive pad followed by the silver then finished with the white which is very fine. I didn’t spend nearly as much time as I did when I used sand paper and I am a lot happier with the results.

The before pictures were taken with my cell phone so they are not all that great. I don’t have a nice shaving picture yet as I am still working on the blade.

I should have some more stuff up soon. I am currently working on a few planes which have been a ton of fun for me to work on so far. I am completely restoring a #45 combination plane as well as a #48 T&G plane. There is so much detail in the bodies of these planes that cleaning them has been a real challenge. I hope to have them finished soon.

Thanks for looking!

-- Dan - "Collector of Hand Planes"



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#1 posted 03-08-2011 05:53 PM

She’s a beauty & the frog looks fantastic. The #6 is an oft forgotten plane & one of my favorites. I have no doubt that you’ll love this plane.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#2 posted 03-08-2011 06:01 PM

Al, I couldn’t agree more. After restoring this plane I now consider it my favorite. I think I will get a lot of use out of this plane as a jointer for smaller boards. I use the #7 now but it tires me out quickly and the #5 just doesn’t seem big enough. The weight of the #6 feels perfect and the wide blade is nice.

I spent a lot of time on the frog. The middle was humped out so it took a lot to get it flat. Its not perfect as you can see in the pictures the very top is still off but I don’t think that will effect it at all.

-- Dan - "Collector of Hand Planes"

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#3 posted 03-08-2011 07:31 PM

WOW! That Frog is amazing.. I swear I could almost see my reflection in the photo ;) Nice restore. Interesting note about the abbrasive pad. What do you think there is about the sandpaper that causes the darkening?

-- Galootish log blog, http://www.timberframe-tools.com

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#4 posted 03-08-2011 08:18 PM

Swirt – I am not sure what causes the darkening. I read on a website of someone else who restores planes that he had the same problem with the sand paper and he said the lower grit and excessive sanding caused the wood to appear almost black when finished. I have never worked with Rosewood other then on the plane handles so I don’t know enough about it. Some of my other planes handles or knobs are very dark though. I have used different finishes too and it didn’t make a difference.

After doing both ways I highly recommend using the abrasive pads rather then sand paper. If its in real bad shape you will probably have to sand it but if your just looking to clean it up and not get every little scratch and dent out then the abrasives is the way to go.

HOWEVER if your are working on a plane with a stained hardwood handle or knob then I suggest sanding it starting at 100 or 120 to strip the old stain finish off. The pads wont work well for stained wood.

-- Dan - "Collector of Hand Planes"

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#5 posted 03-08-2011 08:31 PM

Looks great Dan, I would really like to know what you go through in your process. I know everyone is different, but I am curious. I have cleaned several planes, but have never gone through the lapping and painting processes. I tend to take the frog and lap it on sand paper on a granite tile. Please share what gives you these great results…

-- When you earnestly believe you can compensate for a lack of skill by doubling your efforts, there is no end to what you CAN'T do

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#6 posted 03-08-2011 08:49 PM

Dwain – If you look at my previous blogs in this series I do go through the process in which I restore the planes. You should be able to find my past blogs by going to my profile page. You got it right with the frog just do the same thing with the bottom of the plane. I also lap the sides which cleans them up pretty fast. I don’t always lap the sides to be perfectly flat but more to just get the dirt/rust off. Once the sides are pretty clean of dirt/rust I then just go over them by hand with fine grit sand paper up to 2000 grit.

Stripping the old finish and repainting the planes is the hardest part IMO. One of my previous blogs I talk about how I do that. I did change one thing about the painting. I now spray paint the planes with low gloss engine enamel. After a few coats I rub it down with a fine abrasive pad to smooth it out.

-- Dan - "Collector of Hand Planes"

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#7 posted 03-08-2011 08:50 PM

Dan, I agree with you. The fore is the perfect blend of heft and width for me. Anything the #5 can do, the #6 seems to do a bit better. For jointing, I’ve got the #8 & #7 but I’ve had good success using the #6. I love that they can be had for such a good price. I’m tempted to amass a pile of them before they’re “discovered”. You’re only going to fall MORE in love with this plane.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#8 posted 03-08-2011 10:24 PM

Looking mighty good Dan! Don’t you want to come and visit me, I have quite a few that will love this kind of TLC!

-- Div @ the bottom end of Africa. "A woodworker's sharpest tool should be his mind."

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#9 posted 03-08-2011 10:32 PM

Div, I’ll meet you there. I’ve got about 15 planes (last time I checked) that were in various states of rehab. Dan did such a nice job with this plane, he’ll probably want some more practice, right? :)

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#10 posted 03-08-2011 10:39 PM

Div- Funny you should say that. I enjoy restoring these old tools so much that I have been thinking of setting up side business to restore these for people. Of all the restoration pages I have been to I don’t recall seeing any that offered the service for others. They only sold ones they did.

I would actually be more then happy to restore and refinish planes for people. I am pretty fast at it now and I have calculated my time and materials and I can do it for a really good and affordable price. If you are interested at all send me a msg and we can work something out.

-- Dan - "Collector of Hand Planes"

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#11 posted 03-08-2011 10:46 PM

Al – Same goes to you. I would actually love to restore some planes for other people. If your interested send me a msg. I think I have a really good price figured out to do the work. You would just have to ship the plane to me I restore it and ship it back.

-- Dan - "Collector of Hand Planes"

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#12 posted 03-08-2011 10:57 PM

Someone posted a price list for plane restoration recently. It was reasonably expensive but worth every single penny, no doubt about it. I’m like you, Dan, enjoying the process. I’m not ready to farm out my rehabs but I’m not volunteering to do others either! Good luck with this pursuit; I’m sure you’ll find takers.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#13 posted 03-09-2011 12:07 AM

Do you remember where you saw the price list? I am curious if the numbers I came up with are close to what others would charge. I was thinking 30 dollars for a full restore + the shipping… All in all less then 50 dollars for everything.

I don’t know that I will advertise the service all over but I was thinking of setting up a small site with pics and having the service to offer. I wouldn’t be able to handle a heavy flow of work but a few every now and then would be fun for me.

Also now that I have a pretty complete set for myself I am running out of planes to restore. I have a few specialty planes to do but thats it. I may also buy old ones to restore and sell as user planes. I see those sell for a bit more.

-- Dan - "Collector of Hand Planes"

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#14 posted 03-09-2011 12:25 AM

Thats a nice looking handplane.

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#15 posted 03-09-2011 02:11 AM

Hi Dan,
You have done a wonderful job on that plane.
I am also short of a no 1, so if you find two sen me a mail…
Also I have a few planes so if you came and spend some weeks here it would be wonderful!
Thank you for sharing your experiences,
best of my thoughts,
Mads

-- MAD F, the fanatical rhykenologist and vintage architect. Democraticwoodworking.

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