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Blog entry by Davesfunwoodworking posted 2176 days ago 1076 reads 0 times favorited 21 comments Add to Favorites Watch

I would like to see mess ups. You know we always see the finished projects. But I have been working on a curved top to the hope chest that I am making and have had a few mess ups. It got me thinking about lumberjocks. I came in to see if I could find any thing on here that would help me not mess up. I could not find anything on here about what to do or what not to do. How about a mess up and how to fix tab? You know we all wanted a tab on the contests.
I would like to see a tab on messing up and how to fix or over come a problem. What do you all think of that? Thanks for your help on this. Dave

-- Davesfunwoodworking



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Russel

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#1 posted 2176 days ago

Well, considering that storage space costs money, I’d rather not make Martin go and get more space for my mistakes. I’ve got quite a history of things that should not have happened and I’m doing my best to repress many of them. Though there have been some “design modifications” that I was pretty pleased with … unfortunately I have no pictures.

-- Working at Woodworking http://www.VillageLaneFurniture.com

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brunob

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#2 posted 2176 days ago

Problem is, I never mess up ;>) yeh, right. Good idea.

-- Bruce from Central New York...now, if you'll pardon me, I have some sawdust to make.

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GaryK

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#3 posted 2176 days ago

I think one of the things that makes a good woodworker is being able to hide your mistakes.
If you can’t hide them, incorporate the mistake into the design to make it look like you planed it that way.

If all else fails make it over again.

-- Gary - Never pass up the opportunity to make a mistake look like you planned it that way - Tyler, TX

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Davesfunwoodworking

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#4 posted 2176 days ago

Russel if we dont mess up how will we ever get it right. Just a thought. I think a help tab would be much better money spent then on a contest tab. Not much learning there. Thanks Dave

-- Davesfunwoodworking

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bfd

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#5 posted 2176 days ago

I recently posted my mess up in my blog series on my latest project..check it out. Since I for one learn from my mistakes I thought I would share so others would benefit.

http://lumberjocks.com/jocks/bfd/blog/5333

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Llarian

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#6 posted 2176 days ago

I’d be interested in something like this actually, although I’m not sure it needs to be separate from blogs.

I recently had a problem with badly cut tenons (done on my out of alignment RAS), and it took me a while to figure out how best to fix them. I can’t imagine its an uncommon mistake.

-- Dylan Vanderhoof - General hobbiest and reluctant penmaker. http://llarian.etsy.com

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HokieMojo

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#7 posted 2176 days ago

I think there is already a lot of this. I think you just need to look through the blogs and forum posts. Many of the forum posts are asking for help after making a mistake and often have soem photos. I know for a fact that the blog contains people who felt they made a mistake, and then learned from it. Blake did a blog making a sewing table. The the came out awesome, and you would never know he made what he considered to be a mistake at the time, but he made some modifications and it sounds like he is even happier with the result than if his original plan had worked.

I think the short answer is, you make a mistake when you
1) are impatient
2) don’t research
3) are doing something new

All of these are things that someone else posting probably wouldn’t help with (except for 3, but someone posting the right way to do it should be enough if they give you some warnings to keep you on track). I can see where you are coming from with this post, but I think there is lots of good info on dealing with mistakes here.

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Betsy

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#8 posted 2176 days ago

I don’t think a mess up tab is needed. The amount of bandwidth that Martin would have to buy/manage would be huge. I’d rather have the contest tab.

I think most of us when we pull a real boner/mistake – we post it as a blog. If we have a mess up tab more would be inclined to post small mistakes. If anyone makes a mistake and can’t figure out how to solve it – they post about it and LJs jump into action with suggestions.

-- Like a bad penny, I keep coming back!

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trifern

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#9 posted 2176 days ago

A wise craftsman once told me, ” You can’t be old and wise without first being young and stupid.” The key is to learn from your mistakes. I agree with Gary also. Some of my most interesting designs came from necessity, not planning.

-- My favorite piece is my last one, my best piece is my next one.

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manilaboy

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#10 posted 2176 days ago

Hey I am newbie. And I have made a lot of it. It certainly would have been less painful, less expensive, done more precisely, completed in a shorter span of time and the project would have looked better had I avoided some of those booboos. Yes I have learned the hard way. And it is going to be a long hard way because one really does not graduate from the “School of Hard Knocks”.

I agree with trifern above. But isn’t it even more wise if we can cut the “stupid” part out. LOL. We are all singing praises for Lumberjocks as the best woodworking site there is. This is one novel idea of making this site even more more helpful. I agree that another tab will make the display area smaller and that is not nice for the advertisers. Isn’t it Martin? ;-). Posting for help/assistance/information does not necessarily mean one can get the exact help he needs at the time he needs it (I live halfway around the world).

I think it will help a little if we include the phrase “mess-up” in the entry tags/keywords space whenever anybody posts a project on which he committed it. This way a mess-up is particular to a process in the project which will be easier for the searcher to discern if it is the help he exactly needs. Of course, this all depends on the willingness of the project’s author to admit his mistake and his willingness to elaborate more on the mistake if further explanation is required.

My two cents!

Rico

-- "Real jocks do it on a bench"

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Napaman

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#11 posted 2176 days ago

mess ups tab…we already have it…I am surprised its not used more:

MESS UP TAB

-- Matt--Proud LJ since 2007

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Davesfunwoodworking

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#12 posted 2176 days ago

Napaman now thats funny.LOL!!! Your stuff looks good.
I don’t want to upset all of thoughs who are master craftsman out there. But some times it helps to see what others did wrong and how they fixed it. Your all great at what you do. However I am still and till I am dead will always be learning new stuff. Infact every day I learn something new. However I just think that if this is going to be the best woodworking site (as I tell everyone) We need a to see mess ups and how to fix them.
Now I am sure I am not the only one who suffers from stupid once in a while. Infact my fire wood pile is growing over the last few days. Had I been able to see some one elss make a fix. I may have save alot of wood. Now I know this is not your fault. But you all want to share your finished projects as I do. But we sure could use the help too. Just think back ok way back no no way wayu back to when you all first started. Now would it not have been a bit easyer on you had some one be able to share there mess up with you. Then you could have said WOW Iam going to give that a try. Learning is a big part of everyday living. Just a thought..

-- Davesfunwoodworking

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daveintexas

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#13 posted 2176 days ago

Talk about timing.
I am working on a A&C bridal chest. The lid is solid QSWO with breadboard ends.
For some reason there is a small gap between the breadboard and the solid wood top. I think it is because I used a shoulder plane to trim off some of the toungue to fit the groove in the ends. And it left a tiny ridge in the corner.
Anyway, I was reminded of something David Marks told me. If you have a gap at a joint and cant get it closed, then accentuate the gap.
Which is what I did. I used a 1/8 router bit and cut a groove along the edge. hopefully when I put the finish on the lid, it will look like I designed it to have a groove.

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Betsy

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#14 posted 2176 days ago

I notice that Napaman’s project is first on that tab!

-- Like a bad penny, I keep coming back!

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Napaman

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#15 posted 2175 days ago

i think its a cool idea dave…

maybe an easier idea is to put in “mess up” as a tag…Tags are an often overlooked and under used search tool here at Lj’s…it would be simple…when you add a project, blog, forum…just add mess up as a tag…and then we would get a collection of them…

ok… i just added this tag to a pen project where i blew out the blank…here.

-- Matt--Proud LJ since 2007

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