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A Cap Rail for a Crib

Blog entry by DaveR posted 261 days ago 525 reads 0 times favorited 20 comments Add to Favorites Watch

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There was a request for a repost of a Design. Click. Build. blog that I did back in late 2007. It is a demonstration of converting a 2D pencil drawing into a 3D SketchUp component. There’s a fairly long and dull video accompanying the blog post. Someone might find it helpful though.

Here it is.

-- Until you spread your wings, you'll have no idea how far you can walk.


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PurpLev

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posted 261 days ago

what? no short-notes? can’t check the video now at work – but am curious of the method you used – is it a follow-me profile over a curved path? 2 profiles ? (I see a separation line between the 2 ‘rail parts’)

-- When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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DaveR

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posted 261 days ago

Heh, heh, heh! You’re going to be going home early just to watch the video. :-D

Actually, due to the large number of faces, I only drew a quarter of the rail and made that component. Then I copied and flipped it to make the other three quarters. I don’t think you are seeing a seam line thoug. Just dark areas in the matrerial.

-- Until you spread your wings, you'll have no idea how far you can walk.

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David_Bethune

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posted 261 days ago

You guys are amazing with Sketch-Up!

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Brad_Nailor

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posted 261 days ago

I just was working on a SU model of a prototype sub bass cabinet that a cabinet maker friend of mine will be producing, and I had to do sides with 3 intersecting 3/8” round overs. I ended up just doing one and copy/paste/flip the other three. When something is difficult or time consuming to draw that is the easiest way to go. Sometimes your geometry is a little off and you cant duplicate the same results on the other corners(dont get the wrong idea here…thats not what happened to me ;O) ) so it guarantees you consistent results!

-- David, South Windsor, CT "I love the smell of sawdust in the morning"

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DaveR

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posted 261 days ago

Like this?

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Easy as pie.

I’ll show you shortly.

-- Until you spread your wings, you'll have no idea how far you can walk.

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bentlyj

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posted 261 days ago

Well this is the best I could do. I did it without looking at the video. I have some dotted lines on the top where I hide some lines that I couldn’t get to go away. Another thing that was weird was that I couldn’t pan around it the way I wanted, it kept going the other direction, hmmmm
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DaveR

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posted 261 days ago

Not bad. What was the orientation you were working in? Sometimes you’ll get strange panning if you are looking straight down or straight up.

-- Until you spread your wings, you'll have no idea how far you can walk.

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bentlyj

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posted 261 days ago

Yeah, I started off with a square and was looking straight down. Thanks, I’ll keep that in mind.
I tried changing the axis and rotating to different positions, but still just couldn’t get it to do right.
Want to tell you thanks for all your help, I do appreciate it. Following along with you has really helped me a lot, otherwise I probably would have dropped it by now. SU just helped me sell a reception counter. :)
Laminate.. but at least it’s work.

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DaveR

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posted 261 days ago

Rounding the corners of a cube.

-- Until you spread your wings, you'll have no idea how far you can walk.

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DaveR

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posted 260 days ago

Brad, as you said, it is uusually easier to copy and flip geometry if it is complex to draw. If the oprtion you copy and flip is a component, it helps keep the file size down, too.

Bently, I’m glad it has helped and congratulations on the sale.

-- Until you spread your wings, you'll have no idea how far you can walk.

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Brad_Nailor

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posted 260 days ago

Thats a very cool way of doing it Dave..I will have to remember that one! Unfortunately, the way I was doing it was two of the 3/8” round overs were on the side component and one was on the top/bottom so it was a little more complicated to do since they were all separate components. I ended up using separate geometry and intersecting with my model and then erasing away the waste. So what I did was kind of like what you did..I wish I could post a picture to show you but I left my thumb drive at home today and all my files and the skippy are on it..so I’m pissed I can’t work on it at lunch today!

-- David, South Windsor, CT "I love the smell of sawdust in the morning"

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thelt

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posted 260 days ago

David wrote: “You guys are amazing with Sketch-Up!”

And he’s is sooooo right. I am still on drawing straight lines, and haven’t a clue how to do stuff like that. Even more so the “follow me” thingy.

-- There are three signs of old age. The first is loss of memory. I forgot the other two!

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DaveR

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posted 260 days ago

Thelt, it’ll come with practice.

Brad, one way to approach making components of the sides is to essentially deconstruct the box after drawing it. Turn on Hidden Geometry and select the geometry you want to keep for the component you’re making. Copy that geometry away from the original, finish it up to complete the part and make that a component. Repeat for the next one. Of course you’ll copy and flip components that are symmetrical.

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-- Until you spread your wings, you'll have no idea how far you can walk.

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Brad_Nailor

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posted 260 days ago

Ya that would work. I always seem to approach modeling things in SU like I would make them in real life. First I made all the basic plywood pieces with all the dado’s and rabbits. Then after I had that all worked out then I started working on the round overs…which is exactly how the prototype will be built. It’s allot easier to whip out a router and round over all the plywood edges in real life…I need a virtual router..somebody should design a plug in thats a virtual router!

-- David, South Windsor, CT "I love the smell of sawdust in the morning"

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DaveR

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posted 260 days ago

FWIW, I did the following from the components shown in the image above. I didn’t use any drawing tools after making that screen shot. My point with this is that if boxes with rounded edges and corners is the sorts of things you would make more than once, you could make one set up of the components and then modify them to suit. Save the original components for reuse.

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DaveR

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posted 260 days ago

Cross posted BN.

Usually I work the same way but sometimes it is easier to start from the finished product and work backward so to speak.

-- Until you spread your wings, you'll have no idea how far you can walk.

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tinnman65

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posted 260 days ago

As always you are a great help with this program, and Dave that video wasn’t dull at all. I agree with bentlyj, if it were not for you I probably would have given up long ago or at least would still be cursing the screen on a regular basis. Now why don’t you create a video series that starts at the beginning and takes us right up to the Newport Highboy.

-- Paul Sayre Creativity is a drug I cannot live without. Cecil B. DeMille (1881 - 1959)

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DaveR

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posted 260 days ago

Thanks Paul. It’s nice to know that some of my stuff is helping others.

A Newport highboy, huh? Hmmm….

-- Until you spread your wings, you'll have no idea how far you can walk.

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sIKE

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posted 260 days ago

Pfft, a Newport Highboy? A couple hours of work for Dave at the most…I am waiting on the Drawing for “A Wooten Patent Desk”
Click for details
>:)

-- //FC - Round Rock, TX - "Experience is what you get just after you need it"

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DaveR

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posted 260 days ago

DO ya think Gary would give me whatever he worked from to build that desk? I’d draw it up. I’m collecting information for the highboy right now.

-- Until you spread your wings, you'll have no idea how far you can walk.

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