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Violin Kit #1: Unboxing

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Blog entry by Dave Rutan posted 04-05-2018 04:38 PM 640 reads 0 times favorited 9 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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I decided to buy myself some education on lutherie. This is a kit that I bought from eBay, though it apparently is the same kit that you’d get from tomtop.com [link]. The body of the violin comes pre-assembled, but unlike the more expensive stew mac version, the purfling is already installed. I was actually expecting painted on purfling, so this was a pleasant surprise.

I’ll need to create the dado into which the neck is fit and fit the pegs and drill a hole for the end button. The only thing i see missing is the saddle, but I can make and fit that into the body. It won’t be the first time.

This project will be a time in the doing because I’m using it as filler work. Stay tuned.

I think the finishing will be the most challenging part, but we shall see.

EDIT I might mention that this kit comes without instructions, but the Stew Mac website with a similar kit [link] has pdf instructions for download ;-)

-- Ni faru ion el ligno!



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Dave Polaschek

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#1 posted 04-05-2018 05:46 PM

Looking forward to watching your progress on this, even if it does take a while.

-- Dave - Minneapolis

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#2 posted 04-05-2018 06:19 PM

Looks like a good project, should be fun.
What is the wood on the body?, looks quarter sawn, pine?
As for finishing, wouldn’t shellac be traditional? How do you plan to stain without covering the double black line around the perimeter (purfling?)

-- "I am a firm believer in the people. If given the truth, they can be depended upon to meet any national crisis. The point is to bring them the real facts." - Abraham Lincoln

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#3 posted 04-05-2018 07:25 PM



Looks like a good project, should be fun.
What is the wood on the body?, looks quarter sawn, pine?
As for finishing, wouldn t shellac be traditional? How do you plan to stain without covering the double black line around the perimeter (purfling?)

- Oldtool

In theory, and according to the description, the top is spruce and the bottom, or back, neck, sides and fingerboard are maple. I will say that though this may end up a violin, it isn’t going to be a strad by any chance. The pieces are adequate, but they are not the best.

The finish is always done last, so it shouldn’t bother the purfling. The black will get blacker. Any stain I use would be a light color in any case, like maple. Depending on how this turns out, I may get another and finish it darker.

-- Ni faru ion el ligno!

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#4 posted 04-05-2018 07:56 PM

Looks like it will be a fun journey, can’t wait to see

-- Wood and Glass they kick (well you know) Have a great day - Dug

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#5 posted 04-05-2018 09:13 PM



Looks like it will be a fun journey, can t wait to see

- mcoyfrog

Depending on what awaits me at work, I may get a start on it tomorrow. I’ll definitely learn something as I’ve never actually cut a neck into the body, just cleaned and re-glued the joint.

-- Ni faru ion el ligno!

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#6 posted 04-05-2018 11:08 PM

That definitely looks like it will be fun. I am building 3 ukuleles for my grandkids right now and fitting neck to body is probably the most challenging part. I am dovetailing them # 3 is definitely much better fit than #1. it has been very educational and a lot of fun.

-- Bruce, Boise, ID

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Dave Rutan

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#7 posted 04-06-2018 01:32 AM



That definitely looks like it will be fun. I am building 3 ukuleles for my grandkids right now and fitting neck to body is probably the most challenging part. I am dovetailing them # 3 is definitely much better fit than #1. it has been very educational and a lot of fun.

Do mandolin necks always get dovetailed? Apparently violins depend on the tab coming off the back to hold them from moving, that and the glue.

-- Ni faru ion el ligno!

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#8 posted 04-06-2018 01:21 PM

I think neck fastening is more a personal thing with the builder and some tradition built in also. Violins probably have more tradition than any other instrument. In the research I have done on Ukes builders do bolt on , dado, sliding dovetails, tapered dovetails. I am thinking of making another uke out of a 2×4 and trying a tapered dovetail for the neck. If I screw it up I won’t be out that much.
I have found out that using hide glue is definitely the way to go. On uke #2 I glued the bridge on backwards I had several coats of finish on when I discovered it. A little heat some scraping on the finish and reglued correctly. You probably already know that from your repairs.

I am trying to build up the courage to try a mandolin.

-- Bruce, Boise, ID

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#9 posted 04-06-2018 08:06 PM

If there were anything that is now securly tied to tradition, it is definitely the standard violin! It’s one of the reasons that I have no plans on ever trying to make one from scratch. I’d stick with something that have some ‘give’ to it like a teardrop fiddle, for example. Even dulcimers have some constraints, but there is still room to experiment.

The liquid hyde glue that titebond sells is very good stuff (my opinion).

And I’d say go for it with the mandolin! If you don’t want to dive in the deep end all at once, maybe make a cigar box mandolin or buy a kit? One of the joys of folk instruments is that people just went and made them out of what they had and the way they wanted them to look.

-- Ni faru ion el ligno!

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