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Blog entry by Darrell Peart posted 79 days ago 599 reads 2 times favorited 22 comments Add to Favorites Watch

There seemed to be some interest in my post yesterday on design so I thought I would follow up with this …..

I never can seem to leave a design alone and call it good enough.

I have a commission on the books for a Fremont Bed. I was not satisfied with how I dealt with the overhang of the top cap – it was OK, but didn’t seem to jive with the rest of the design. I just drew this up a few minutes ago and will propose the change to my client.

The original is on the right – the revision on the left.

Every now and then – if I have the time – I will do a quick post on some of these tweaks – if there is interest.

-- Darrell Peart - Seattle - www.furnituremaker.com - author G&G Design Elements for the Workshop



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WhoMe

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#1 posted 79 days ago

I was going to say I don’t see a difference but, like playing that game, eventually I found it.
Not sure of the reason for the lip on the end but I think the one on the right looks better, lipless..

-- I'm not clumsy.. It's just the floor hates me, the tables and chairs are bullies and the wall gets in the way.. - Mike -

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#2 posted 79 days ago

I would certainly be interested Darrell,this change is very subtle ,but you know what they say “the devils in the details”

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

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#3 posted 79 days ago

i like the change darrell, the top now has better flow with the bottom piece under it, its a great change, its just enough to make it even more pleasing to the eye, a lot of the times its just small things that bring better change, its also true of our own lives…it is also like bring the oriental feel into the G and G design, i like the change.

-- GRIZZMAN ...[''''']

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Darrell Peart

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#4 posted 79 days ago

Yes – it is a subtle change. Its one of those smaller details that you might not notice at first. I love a design that rewards you with pleasant surprises upon a closer look.

The reason I wanted to change is – the “squarish” shape on the end is not followed through anywhere else on the design. Looking at the close up, the original detail might appear to be acceptable. Its when you look at the design overall that it appears to be out of place.

-- Darrell Peart - Seattle - www.furnituremaker.com - author G&G Design Elements for the Workshop

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Darrell Peart

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#5 posted 79 days ago

Grizzaman – you hit the nail on the head. I was looking for an Asian finale to the end of the top cap – in fact I was thumbing through my copy of “Chinese Household Furniture” to get ideas.

-- Darrell Peart - Seattle - www.furnituremaker.com - author G&G Design Elements for the Workshop

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Darrell Peart

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#6 posted 79 days ago

For a better understanding of how this effects the overall design – here is a drawing of the foot board with the revision

-- Darrell Peart - Seattle - www.furnituremaker.com - author G&G Design Elements for the Workshop

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Darrell Peart

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#7 posted 79 days ago

Well – I thought that the image would be larger – you will have to use your imagination a bit….

-- Darrell Peart - Seattle - www.furnituremaker.com - author G&G Design Elements for the Workshop

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#8 posted 79 days ago

i can see the change well enough and its one i like, i hope your customer will also, thanks for sharing your ideas, its helping me to learn to try some design changes in the things i make.

-- GRIZZMAN ...[''''']

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#9 posted 79 days ago

Darrell,

I lived in Japan for a couple years, many years ago. You took inspiration from the bridge and then toned down the mass. I’m wondering how far you will extend the front of the headboard? There is an intergration in F. L. Wrights stuff from his time building the hotel in Tokyo.

Would a three dimensional drawing change what I’m seeing?

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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#10 posted 79 days ago

I don’t know. I think I like the previous version better. For a couple of reasons:

First, the end doesn’t extend out as far as the previous version—it looks “foreshortened” for some reason. Kind of like alligator arms. I think with the scale of the headboard, the top ends need to extend more than on the new version, to balance out the scale of the headboard.

Second, I like the contrast of the flatter, angular, top piece with the flowing curves of the headboard’s body. It’s almost like a Yin/Yang thing. They work well together, and balance each other out.

Obviously it’s the client’s decision, and I’m curious to know what he/she decides!

-- Dean

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Darrell Peart

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#11 posted 79 days ago

Doc – I would like to see the bridge you refer to – can you post a link for me?
Not sure what you mean about extending the headboard – unless you mean how much overhang for the top cap?

-- Darrell Peart - Seattle - www.furnituremaker.com - author G&G Design Elements for the Workshop

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Darrell Peart

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#12 posted 79 days ago

Dean – I am still playing with how far the cap extends – I do like that in the original but when I gave it the same overhang with the new detail – I did’t like it as well.

The contrast was what I did not like about the first version. When designing, I like to think in terms of DNA – how would nature build this piece if it had these given elements. There are no blunt ends (like on the end of the cap) anywhere else on the design. There is an Asian feel to the piece – and the top of the legs has some curvy lines – the new version completes the Asian theme and gives the cap a curvy end as the leg has.

I do use contrast in a design at times – Maybe I will post something about that some time.

I will be building two beds – one for my client and one to take to the show Pasadena this fall – the show piece at least will have the revision.

-- Darrell Peart - Seattle - www.furnituremaker.com - author G&G Design Elements for the Workshop

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#13 posted 79 days ago

Previous blog post you showed a bridge as an inspiration piece that influenced your work? And you streamlined the pattern in your arts and crafts pieces.

Wasn’t sure if you were doing an extension with the center of the headboard? I saw depth in the pattern? Wondered about that. Do you do a 2D model for the client?

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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#14 posted 79 days ago

I actually think the design on the right looks more consistent with the overall design, but am interested to hear what the client thinks. Why the lip on the design, I don’t see that anywhere else in your Fremont design for the bed or the nightstands.

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Darrell Peart

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#15 posted 79 days ago

OK – I misunderstood. The bridge wasn’t part of the inspiration for this piece.
Sorry _ I am still not sure what you mean by extension?
I send a 2-D drawing to the client – My CAD program is capable of 3-D models but I haven’t learned how to use those features yet.

-- Darrell Peart - Seattle - www.furnituremaker.com - author G&G Design Elements for the Workshop

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