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    <pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 12:54:42 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>This week in urban logging #13: Still milling, just not blogging much...</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>But I thought I would take the time to show a couple pictures. I got a call from a buddy of mine who takes care of a local cemetery asking if I wanted an ugly log they had been pushing around in the mud for a month doing an expansion. I asked what is it. He said &#8220;It&#8217;s just an old elm, but it has alot of forks like you like (crotches) and bumps all over it that look like big strawberries with twigs growing out of them (burls)&#8221; So maybe my buddies don&#8217;t know the terminology, but at least they think of me when they see an ugly tree.</p>


	<p>He dumped it in the yard in 2 pieces. And it does have strawberries growing on it, huh.<br /><img src="http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/attachments/f26/9987d1248370119-ugly-elm-elm3.jpg" alt="" /><br /><img src="http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/attachments/f26/9985d1248370119-ugly-elm-elm.jpg" alt="" /></p>


	<p>The dude in the picture is my nosey neighbor, he is ring counting it for whatever reason. He is about my size, the big end of the log is 36&#8221;. Crooked/nasty/limby/burly chunk of wood, I will see what I can do with it .<br /><img src="http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/attachments/f26/9988d1248370119t-ugly-elm-elm4.jpg" alt="" /></p>


	<p>I whacked the small end off and threw it on the mill to make some crotch table slabs. <br /><img src="http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/attachments/f26/9986d1248370119t-ugly-elm-elm2.jpg" alt="" /></p>


	<p>Same piece just flipped over on the mill deck ready to go.<br /><img src="http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/attachments/f26/9989d1248370134-ugly-elm-elm5.jpg" alt="" /></p>


	<p>Just that one little piece milled out several interesting 6/4 slabs 27&#8221; wide and 4+ feet long&#8230;I still have alot of log left.<br /><img src="http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/attachments/f26/9994d1248379329t-ugly-elm-wood1.jpg" alt="" /><br /><img src="http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/attachments/f26/9995d1248379329t-ugly-elm-wood2.jpg" alt="" /><br /><img src="http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/attachments/f26/9996d1248379329-ugly-elm-wood3.jpg" alt="" /><br /><img src="http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/attachments/f26/9997d1248379329-ugly-elm-wood4.jpg" alt="" /><br /><img src="http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/attachments/f26/9998d1248379385t-ugly-elm-wood5.jpg" alt="" /><br /><img src="http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/attachments/f26/9999d1248379580t-ugly-elm-wood6.jpg" alt="" /></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 12:54:42 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>This week in urban logging #12: It's been awhile since my last report (but I came back with pictures)</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I like crotches. I like milling them, I like making things with them. Some one dropped off this &#8220;crotchy&#8221; elm the other day. The butt log is kinda a big devil.</p>


	<p><img src="http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/members/daren-11/albums/crotch-milling/3260-crotchy-elm.jpg" alt="" /></p>


	<p>So I cut one off to mill. I was a little bummed because I see 2 hearts, which usually means less figure/ more bark inclusion&#8230;</p>


	<p><img src="http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/members/daren-11/albums/crotch-milling/3261-one-them-cut-off.jpg" alt="" /></p>


	<p>I had to trim it abit to get it to fit the mill for width (more on that later)</p>


	<p><img src="http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/members/daren-11/albums/crotch-milling/3262-first-cut-mill.jpg" alt="" /></p>


	<p>First slab looks decent.</p>


	<p><img src="http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/members/daren-11/albums/crotch-milling/3263-c4.jpg" alt="" /></p>


	<p>28&#8221; wide&#8230;not bad for a bandmill that is advertised to make a 24&#8221; cut (I made some mods, wider the better in my book)</p>


	<p><img src="http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/members/daren-11/albums/crotch-milling/3264-28-wide.jpg" alt="" /></p>


	<p>Then comes the inclusion I knew would be there, not too bad it&#8217;s still sound anyway.</p>


	<p><img src="http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/members/daren-11/albums/crotch-milling/3265-bark-inclusion.jpg" alt="" /></p>


	<p>They look good in a bookmatch.</p>


	<p><img src="http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/members/daren-11/albums/crotch-milling/3266-bookmatch.jpg" alt="" /><br /><img src="http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/members/daren-11/albums/crotch-milling/3267-bookmatch.jpg" alt="" /><br /><img src="http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/members/daren-11/albums/crotch-milling/3268-bookmatch.jpg" alt="" /></p>


	<p>Now some may be thinking &#8220;Hey Daren, why don&#8217;t you lay them end to end to see what they look like ?&#8221;...Ok I did that.</p>


	<p><img src="http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/members/daren-11/albums/crotch-milling/3269-bookmatch-end-end.jpg" alt="" /><br /><img src="http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/members/daren-11/albums/crotch-milling/3270-bookmatch-end-end.jpg" alt="" /></p>


	<p>The last slice worth saving&#8230;that little crotch should make several really cool projects&#8230;and there is a heck of alot of just that one log left.<br /><img src="http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/members/daren-11/albums/crotch-milling/3271-last-slice.jpg" alt="" /></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 20:33:46 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>This week in urban logging #11: Fruits of my labor</title>
      <link>http://lumberjocks.com/Daren/blog/6468</link>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I showed a pile of walnut logs in my last blog. Now I will show the pile of lumber that came from it. This is the FAS pile. I have another pile that is lower grade. There is 750 bft of just gorgeous lumber here, almost &#8220;perfect&#8221;. 8&#8221;-12&#8221; wide and 8&#8217;-10&#8217; long boards. <br /><img src="http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5485&#38;stc=1&#38;thumb=1&#38;d=1226617091" alt="" /><br /><img src="http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5486&#38;stc=1&#38;d=1226617098" alt="" /><br /><img src="http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/picture.php?albumid=25&#38;pictureid=1095" alt="" /><br /><img src="http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/picture.php?albumid=25&#38;pictureid=1096" alt="" /></p>


	<p>I grade sawed all this out. I am not exaggerating when I say if I cut all the &#8220;defect&#8221; (any small knots or sapwood) out of this whole pile it would all fit in a 5 gallon bucket !!</p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 23:27:33 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>This week in urban logging #10: Busy week...and it's only Monday</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Todays haul. These logs came from trees at a warehouse expansion. The company owns many acres and some of it is timbered. They hired a tree service buddy of mine to remove the marketable logs and, well market them. Believe it or not not long ago logs like this would have been just bulldozed (and <em>far</em> too many still are) to make room for &#8220;progress&#8221;. I will keep this blog entry short but have to explain this tree service is 3rd generation and until we started working together the only marketable product of their tree removal was fire wood for sale ! I am tired but happy. The company had to clear 2 acres for more buildings, these trees where &#8220;in the way&#8221;...now they are in my yard.</p>


	<p>A few stragglers, 2 cedar 2 black locust and a birch.<br /><img src="http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5361&#38;stc=1&#38;thumb=1&#38;d=1225736251" alt="" /></p>


	<p>What made my day. 23 walnut logs 8&#8217; long (well over 1000 board feet) delivered.<br /><img src="http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5359&#38;stc=1&#38;d=1225736242" alt="" /><br /><img src="http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5360&#38;stc=1&#38;d=1225736242" alt="" /></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 00:47:46 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>This week in urban logging #9: One mans trash...</title>
      <link>http://lumberjocks.com/Daren/blog/6317</link>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Has been my treasure. I got into urban logging for a specific purpose I thought, to utilize wood that I saw going to waste. A lifelong friend of mine and I got back in touch recently after a few years of having drifted apart , work took him out of state. In our conversation he commented that I have always been a &#8220;dumpster diver&#8221; citing examples from as far back as elementary school. And once he visited my website and read what I was up to he thought it was perfectly fitting having known me for over 30 years. This was actually something that had never dawned on me. I feel I am a pretty self aware guy, but I never saw that my &#8220;urban logging&#8221; is just an extension of my natural born dumpster diving tendencies, weird.</p>


	<p>Back story out of the way I will post pictures of some &#8220;trash&#8221; I picked up last week. I get my logs from many sources homeowners/municipalities/tree services&#8230;I contacted one tree service I had not heard from for awhile. I was paying him a little for logs since he always seemed to have very nice ones, but he stopped coming around. He had found another buyer (sawmill 2 hours south) that was willing to pay more than I. No problem we all have to eat and business is business, glad he is still putting salvaged logs to good use and making a little more money too. I asked if he had anything the bigger mill did not want ? If you have read my last 2 blog entries that figured mulberry and spalted white oak where in his &#8220;fire wood pile&#8221;, no other mill wanted them so he was going to split them for fire wood to sell. While visiting his pile of discarded logs that others found no use for there was a pile of walnut crotches they had cut off. I asked &#8220;What about these ?&#8221;. He told me they cut the Y&#8217;s as he called them off logs before taking them to the other mill. Since they were too hard to split they would just be pushed into the timber behind his shop to rot. Of course I asked for those and said I had a use for them, which just received a funny look and a shoulder shrug, they followed me home (well he delivered them with the other logs).</p>


	<p>I know that was alot of reading for just 3 pictures. Some more of other mens trash milled into 6/4&#8221; thick table tops.</p>


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      <pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 13:57:35 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>This week in urban logging #8: Mother nature works for me some times</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Another log from the same load the &#8220;interesting&#8221; mulberry came from in my last entry&#8230;I thought this looked interesting as well.<br /><img src="http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5240&#38;stc=1&#38;d=1224884559" alt="" /></p>


	<p>This white oak had laid in a back yard of an abandoned farm house and was forgotten about by people for a couple years&#8230;mother nature didn&#8217;t forget about it, she went to work spalting it. And did a nice job I might add.</p>


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      <pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:30:54 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>This week in urban logging #7: Still at it </title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I opened up a pretty large mulberry today and knew on the first cut this was going to be interesting.<br /><img src="http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5317&#38;stc=1&#38;d=1225387663" alt="" /></p>


	<p>So I cut a little deeper.<br /><img src="http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5318&#38;stc=1&#38;d=1225387663" alt="" /><br /><img src="http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5319&#38;stc=1&#38;d=1225387672" alt="" /></p>


	<p>Flipped it over&#8230;and urban logging strikes again. 2 screws, oh well there was plenty of good lumber under them.<br /><img src="http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5326&#38;stc=1&#38;d=1225403693" alt="" /></p>


	<p><img src="http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5327&#38;stc=1&#38;d=1225403693" alt="" /></p>


	<p>Yea those are 21&#8221; wide mulberry boards with figure. Kinda weird birdeye/burl clusters, pretty. Mulberry is very pretty anyway. It darkens to the color of aged black cherry as it dries. It is much more attractive dry.<br /><img src="http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5328&#38;stc=1&#38;d=1225403706" alt="" /></p>


	<p>Not a bad stack of 4/4-6/4 and 8/4. Those 8/4&#215;21&#8221; x 8&#8217; wet boards were heavy fresh sawn ! I also got a little pile of live edge flitches from the saw down to a cant that I did not take a picture of.<br /><img src="http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5329&#38;stc=1&#38;d=1225403706" alt="" /></p>


	<p>It is so hard to capture what the figure looks like. The sun washed out the color while it was on the mill&#8230;and the flash washed it out in this picture. Just gonna have to trust me I guess&#8230;it looks better in person.<br /><img src="http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5333&#38;stc=1&#38;d=1225406818" alt="" /></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:30:19 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>My under $100 wide drum sander (a work in progress)</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I mill wide boards. I have been slipping some of them in the side door of a local cabinet shop when I need them surfaced, but that is getting to be a hassle. I decided to make a wide drum sander. Not really a thickness sander since I mill my own lumber, just a sander to take the sawmill marks out. I had just about everything. A 1 1/2 horse motor, some wood for the frame, belts and pulleys&#8230;I did have to buy a couple pillow block bearings.<br />Here it is almost complete (I still need to built a dust hood) I added a big switch on the side of the frame not shown in the picture, but I have a video I am posting showing me hit the switch. The motor is just hanging from a heavy hinge and the belt like a table saw.<br /><img src="http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/picture.php?albumid=75&#38;pictureid=819" alt="" /></p>


	<p>I built a sturdy frame. The drum is fixed and the table raises to the drum.<br /><img src="http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4917&#38;stc=1&#38;d=1222380690" alt="" /></p>


	<p>This screw raises the bed.<br /><img src="http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4918&#38;stc=1&#38;d=1222380690" alt="" /><br /><img src="http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4919&#38;stc=1&#38;d=1222380698" alt="" /></p>


	<p>It does a pretty good job, looks like it would sand flat to me with the bed all the way up. I have the wrong paper on in this picture, that is just emery cloth I had handy to see if the worm gear clamps to hold it to the roller was even a good idea.<br /><img src="http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/picture.php?albumid=75&#38;pictureid=818" alt="" /></p>


	<p>It will sand 25&#8221; wide boards. It is set up right now to sand from 2 1/2&#8221;-0&#8221; thick, my most common need. If I want to sand thicker I can just add riser blocks under the pillow blocks.</p>


	<p>This is how I made the roller. I turned some wood plugs and spaced them on the shaft. The shaft is threaded rod and the wood disks are jam nutted in place.<br /><img src="http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4884&#38;stc=1&#38;d=1222087355" alt="" /><br /><img src="http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4885&#38;stc=1&#38;d=1222087355" alt="" /><br /><img src="http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4886&#38;stc=1&#38;d=1222087369" alt="" /><br /><img src="http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4887&#38;stc=1&#38;d=1222087369" alt="" /></p>


<p>A test run on a piece of osage orange. I was just trying to see if the drum built up too much heat (something I was worried about using PVC pipe) I figured if anything was going to make it hot that hard osage would&#8230;it got warm, but not hot.<br /><object height="344" width="425"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/JN3vozVelfE&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed type="application/x-shockwave-flash" src="http://www.youtube.com/v/JN3vozVelfE&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1" height="344" width="425"></embed></object></p>

	<p>If you have ever worked with osage orange you know how hard it is, something like cherry/walnut I could pretty much thrown though the machine.</p>


	<p>It did a pretty nice job of finishing.<br /><img src="http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5135&#38;stc=1&#38;d=1224263713" alt="" /></p>


	<p>It is not 100% done yet, but  any questions, comments, criticisms are welcome.</p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 13:02:16 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Urban logging #2: The start of some rustic cedar end tables</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I had a short piece of cedar log laying around I had saved for &#8220;something&#8221;, just not quite sure what at the time. It dawned on me today (between pouring rainstorms) to cut some small rustic table top slabs.</p>


	<p>You can see I don&#8217;t stand the log straight up. I have cut many smaller pieces like this for game/fish mounts for a local taxidermist. I found if I cut them on a angle they do not check and bust open, they dry intact. It does make for a weird edge that needs softened/rounded over, but the plus side they are larger cut on a bias.</p>


	<p>Cut 1 3/4&#8221; thick. You can see the 24&#8221; framing square in a couple of the pics. They are pretty decent size. I will let them dry awhile and make a base for a couple and sell a couple of the slabs to someone else to make whatever they want with theirs.</p>


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      <pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 21:00:42 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>This week in urban logging #6: 2 blogs in one week (big log, be careful what you wish for)</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Here is a follow up from earlier in the week. I started milling some of the logs from that blog. I currently have others I am getting backed up on (too many oaks and honeylocust) but am low on cherry so I decided to mill some of it. Turned out very nice, small but nice.<br /><img src="http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4492&#38;stc=1&#38;thumb=1&#38;d=1218285764" alt="" /><br />!<img src="http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4459&#38;stc=1&#38;d=1218130127" alt="" />!<br />One 12 foot log milled and ready to be moved to the drying stacks<br /><img src="http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4460&#38;stc=1&#38;d=1218130127" alt="" /></p>


	<p>I really got a great stack of almost perfect cherry boards. I am pleased. (400 bft ? and did not mill them all yet)</p>


	<p>The walnut like I said was a little strange, but hey I like strange. I only milled one of those. It was so crooked I had to cut it in short pieces to get anything good. Here is a shot of one of the crotches.</p>


	<p><img src="http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4491&#38;stc=1&#38;thumb=1&#38;d=1218283472" alt="" /></p>


	<p>The real reason for this blog entry. The cherries where beauties&#8230;this is a <strong>beast</strong>. I had told the tree service if he was removing any large sycamore I wanted one to 1/4 saw. So he calls &#8220;I have a biggy we are taking down, want it?&#8221; I asked how big. He said 34&#8221; or so. Perfect, that will fit on the mill nicely&#8230;<br />Well he brought 4 logs. The <em>smallest</em> was 34&#8221; on the small end. The biggest (in the picture) is 50&#8221;. Oh boy, someone has their work cut out for them. That one log weighs 6000 lbs. I have to 1/4 it with my chainsaw to even get it on the mill, not really a fun job in August. Oh well with proper planning/milling I should get some massive 1/4 sawn sycamore boards. Enjoy. I will post pictures of the lumber soon hopefully. I was able to just barely get the little log (not in the picture) on the mill last night. I will be sawing it, weather permitting, early next week. <br /><img src="http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4472&#38;stc=1&#38;thumb=1&#38;d=1218155886" alt="" /></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 13:07:36 GMT</pubDate>
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