Entertainment Center #4: Ouch, the Verdict

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Blog entry by Dano posted 06-26-2007 01:49 AM 1237 reads 0 times favorited 10 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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Well, I have been going through my head trying to figure out what I did wrong. I checked to see if the bit might have ridden up, it didn’t. So I did some thinking, I had routed a grove down the center and decided to widen the slot so I moved the fence toward the bit. Now that I think about it I think that meant that I was routing the workpiece with the bit traveling in the same direction, hence, the launch! I think they call this a trapped cut, is that your take on it too? I guess after the launch I jerked my hand which was on the out-feed side back toward the bit. I have multiple cuts on the first half inch of my 2 middle fingers. The Doc said there wasn’t anything to stitch up so he gave me some antibiotics, dressed the fingers. I get to go back Friday to see how they are doing. Oh, BTW, no I wasn’t using a push stick or block (stupid) but think I have learned my lesson. I probably won’t do too much for a few days while my fingers and my pride heals.

Bob, in his previous comment, suggest a safety blog which is a fantastic idea. Probably allot of folks are in my position in being somewhat self taught and a Blog on safety and proper use could be a huge benefit to folks like me. Although I try to be careful and I do study quite a bit there is always something to learn. In my younger days I flew professionally and always studied accident and incident reports to learn from others, Fly Magazine even had a regular feature titled “I Learned About Flying From That!” Maybe some of you experienced guys could sponsor such a Blog with input from dummies like me. We could all benefit from it. I’d volunteer to be the first contributer (victim).

Well, while I heal I do some pictures of the entertainment center and jigs (pass on the wound photos, yes I have them).

-- Dan in Central Oklahoma, Able to turn good wood into saw dust in the blink of an eye!

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#1 posted 06-26-2007 02:18 AM

Ahhhh…that will do it everytime. As soon as you did that it was a climb cut. Ouch. Sorry that happened

Rule of thumb with routing dados on the router table: The edge of the bit that’s closest to you should do the cutting on a router table. Otherwise you create a fence trap. This is a tough concept to appreciate unless we have JUST the example you have been so generous to describe.

-- You can discover more about a person in an hour of play than in a year of conversation. (Plato)

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#2 posted 06-26-2007 03:21 AM

I agree a trapped router bit, took the easy way and got the wood out-a-there. Your fingers took the place of the wood.

Ouch, Ouch . . . OUCH.

-- I've been blessed with a father who liked to tinker in wood, and a wife who lets me tinker in wood. Southern Delaware soon moving to Virginia †

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#3 posted 06-26-2007 03:41 AM

At least you figured out what happened and shared it. Hopefully others including myself will learn from it.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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#4 posted 06-26-2007 04:22 AM

That was my favorite column of Flying Magazine. I think a column or blog or forum or whatever we call it will help all of us learn without repeating (as many) of the mistakes we’ll read about. Awesome idea.

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#5 posted 06-26-2007 04:27 AM

I’ve successfully done a climbing cut before, but the cut must be small and a good grip on the piece is crucial. I don’t know how much material you were trying to remove at the time or your setup, but I am truly saddened to hear of your injuries. I drew an arrow on my router table that shows the direction of the bit and which way I should feed the material. It can be seen here: I must admit that it isn’t full proof, though. I can’t remember what I did once, but when feeding from the feed end, I realized that I was actually doing a climb cut. You talk about a scary moment! Luckily, I was taking a small amount of material out and it didn’t get away from me. I changed the setup on the next pass, to say the least. Thanks for sharing this accident with us and helping someone else to avoid it in the future.

-- Jesus is Lord!

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#6 posted 06-26-2007 11:14 AM

tagging such entries with “Safety” will be a good start to organize these lessons.

(that’s terrible about your fingers but.. it could have been worse.. so I’m glad it wasn’t worse!!)

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (

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#7 posted 06-26-2007 02:17 PM

Please use push sticks and or jigs whenever possible.
I would hate to see our liability insurance take a hike over something as simple as this.
It seems the number of woodworking related accidents is on the rise and it shouldn’t be with all the information out there today.

p.s. I am not discounting knowing which direction the blade is travelling but it becomes less of a hazard with proper use of the above.

Bob (climbing down off his “climb cut” soap box) <g>

-- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner

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#8 posted 06-26-2007 04:32 PM

Bob, thanks for climbing up on that soap box, we all need to be sternly reminded sometimes when we go momentarily stupid. Last night I spent some time looking at the GRR-Ripper push block. Pretty expensive for a push block but then I look at my bandaged fingers and they don’t seem that costly :-)

Ms. Debbie, outstanding idea to tag such events with “Safety”. I’ll do that from now on and I hope others will too.

-- Dan in Central Oklahoma, Able to turn good wood into saw dust in the blink of an eye!

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#9 posted 06-26-2007 09:50 PM

OK…I just learned something new….I can let my brain take the rest of the day off.

Thanks for the explanation of what happened. I’ll try to avoid finger/bit interaction. Glad to hear it was nothing too serious.

-- Bob

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#10 posted 06-26-2007 11:12 PM

Bob, I highly recommend that you do avoid the finger bit interaction, at least while the bit is spinning 25k rpm.

The mind is a terrible thing to waste, make sure you keep it in the game!

-- Dan in Central Oklahoma, Able to turn good wood into saw dust in the blink of an eye!

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