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"Scroat" the Plane... A swan song in the making

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Blog entry by David Grimes posted 07-22-2011 04:08 AM 1355 reads 0 times favorited 36 comments Add to Favorites Watch

I made fun of a Stanley 4 1/2 C plane on Ebay. It looked terrible in all ways to me at the time. So somewhat impulsively, I bid $42 max and later won it for $35.89 and $14 shipping.

My impulse was based purely on three “reasonings:
1) I need a 4 1/2 to nearly fill my collection (I still lack a #1),
2) I have been wanting to repair a tote, and
3) My next restore (even though I’m not through with my first) will be done by electrolysis (even though the Evapo-Rust worked extremely well on the current project) and this is a crusty candidate.

So here are pictures of “Scroat” BEFORE

-- If you're going to stir the pot, think BIG spoon or SMALL boat paddle. David Grimes, Georgia



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SamuelP

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#1 posted 07-22-2011 04:12 AM

You should keep the mustard. *Rename post…”Mustard’s Last Stand!”

-- -Sam - Tampa, FL- "A man who carries a cat by the tail learns somthing he can in no other way" -Mark Twain

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WayneC

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#2 posted 07-22-2011 04:13 AM

It will be a nice plane when your done. It is a Type 11…. One of my favorite vintages…

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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David Grimes

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#3 posted 07-22-2011 04:21 AM

That’s not mustard ! It’s warm and yellow and smells like bananas, so it must be monkey puke !

-- If you're going to stir the pot, think BIG spoon or SMALL boat paddle. David Grimes, Georgia

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#4 posted 07-22-2011 04:51 AM

Just spray the whole thing with a couple good coats of “traffic yellow”. Restoration complete!

Seriously, though, Wayne is right. This type, dating from 1910-1918, is a great plane…. if you can ever get that ugly paint off. :-)

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#5 posted 07-22-2011 04:53 AM

This is one I would repaint….

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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David Kirtley

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#6 posted 07-22-2011 05:19 AM

To me, that says character and unique. I got tired of plain old black japanning. Last one I did I went with a nice squished caterpillar green. Quite striking on a transitional smoother.

If you are good with a brush, red racing stripes would be killer.

-- Woodworking shouldn't cost a fortune: http://lowbudgetwoodworker.blogspot.com/

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philip marcou

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#7 posted 07-22-2011 05:22 AM

Actually it looks not too bad at all-the first picture off Ebay denigrated it some…..Considering it must be pre 1933 it is very good.
Seeing the cracked tote here now after my comment on the forum I wouldn’t want to glue that-either make a new one or get a replacement Rosewood one from the that guy who makes them.

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WayneC

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#8 posted 07-22-2011 05:34 AM

I think that tote is repairable….

Results of cleaning

close up handle

Look ma no break

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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David Grimes

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#9 posted 07-22-2011 05:42 AM

@WayneC, What kind of glue is that ?

Trying the repair would do no harm. If it goes to hell, I can always replace it.

-- If you're going to stir the pot, think BIG spoon or SMALL boat paddle. David Grimes, Georgia

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WayneC

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#10 posted 07-22-2011 05:51 AM

I belive this one was Gorilla glue. I would use 2 part epoxy as Phillip said in the other post today. Another view of how it was clamped.

Handle in clamp

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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David Grimes

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#11 posted 07-22-2011 05:56 AM

Probably a stupid question, but would small dowels help any ?

-- If you're going to stir the pot, think BIG spoon or SMALL boat paddle. David Grimes, Georgia

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WayneC

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#12 posted 07-22-2011 05:59 AM

Not sure they would be needed… Also might be difficult to get them to align.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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Grandpa

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#13 posted 07-22-2011 06:12 AM

A long step from that center stripe on the highway. Great job especially for your first one. It should give yeas of service.

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David Grimes

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#14 posted 07-22-2011 06:14 AM

This is David X-Ray Grimes you’re talking to, remember ? ;=)

Actually I was thinking a very small diameter (3/16” ?) dowel shaft drilled at the appropriate angle from the bottom (after the glue and clamp) on front and back of the screw shaft to give it something to take the stress off the break itself. Eh, just a thought.

-- If you're going to stir the pot, think BIG spoon or SMALL boat paddle. David Grimes, Georgia

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David Kirtley

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#15 posted 07-22-2011 06:29 AM

With modern glues, just about anything will bond stronger than the wood itself. It is going to be a long grain repair. Remember, there is already a hole drilled through it for the screw. Not a lot of wood available to drill something else through there.

-- Woodworking shouldn't cost a fortune: http://lowbudgetwoodworker.blogspot.com/

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