Building My Work Shop #13: Powermatic PM2000

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Blog entry by Crushgroovin posted 01-28-2011 11:53 PM 4408 reads 0 times favorited 12 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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Love to hear feedback from owners of the Powermatic PM2000 or Jet JTSA 10XL in regards to what you like and what you don’t. As it now looks like these are going to be my choices for my new TS. I really had my heart set on a Sawstop PCS 3HP but I am just can’t justify $3,000 for it when I can get a new Powermatic PM2000 with 52” fence & router lift for $1,800. The Jet is about $300 less than that.

Oh & please no stupid comments about the political issues surrounding Sawstop. Nor about how you feel like a real man using a saw that is more dangerous. Those guys are the same guys that have never satisfied a woman so they go out and get big huge trucks to make up for their little tiny weenies. Real men don’t need to feel daring by using a table saw, we prove our manhood without thought or effort.

By the way Sawstop is now the only Table Saw made in America by and American owned company.

-- I wouldn't be so arrogant if you weren't such a moron!

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#1 posted 01-29-2011 12:11 AM

Wow, that’s a great price on PM2000, mind if I ask where?

-- On the eighth day God was back in His woodworking shop! SteveW

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#2 posted 01-29-2011 12:20 AM

Local Jet Powermatic dealer gets them in Surplus. They buy dozens of them from other retailers that are going out of business or have their inventories seized by creditors. Good guys, I will post more info after I purchase my saw. Sorry I don’t share killer deals until I get my own first. I am sure you can understand.

-- I wouldn't be so arrogant if you weren't such a moron!

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#3 posted 01-29-2011 12:26 AM

I agree with Steve WOW wher did you find a price like that on a pm2000

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#4 posted 01-29-2011 12:39 AM

I know, you mentioned not to mention the sawstop arguments, but I’m going to mention this about them… They’re designed in the US, by a US company, but manufactured in Taiwan… sadly. So to say they’re “Made in America” isn’t 100% accurate… as for the rest of the question you posted, i don’t know the answer, i’m a sawstop owner myself.

-- Your mind, much like a parachute, works best when open.

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#5 posted 01-29-2011 02:15 AM

I love mine…..except when it bit me, and it was a lot more than $1800!

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#6 posted 01-29-2011 02:51 AM

Nice looking machine Ron!

Yeah I am the Numba 1 Deal Meister!! The guys at Woodcraft hate me because I only buy stuff from them when its on sale. Just because I’m under 40 & haven’t been woodworking for too long doesn’t mean I am a sucker. In fact they are so money driven there that I no longer even ask them their opinions. I like my local Rockler much better as they will actually give me a straight answer. It was one of the used car salesman @ Woodcraft who gave me the line about Sawstop being built in America. I should have known it was more BS.

Honestly though where something is made means very little to me as I don’t have much faith in the quality of american goods anymore. Sure 40 plus years ago made in America meant something. Today it is something said to people that haven’t woken up from the 1960’s. Heck I live in a neighborhood with over 700 kids & I can’t find a single one willing to mow my lawn once a week for $25. But that same amount will get me a family of mexicans that will work their butts off & leave my yard looking amazing.

I started my career working in a call center and worked my way up every single level until I was most recently a regional Government Account Executive for AT&T. In the 18 years working my way up the ladder I had thousands of co workers who were smarter, better educated, and had better experience. But I kept moving up because I worked my butt off regardless of what was “Cool”. I didn’t complain or make a big deal out of the petty little things that seem to always be present in a large corporation. The one thing I saw in those 18 years was how hard most people work to avoid working. The american worker no longer feels grateful for the privilege of having a job. For an overwhelming majority they feel that being paid is a god given right. For that reason I don’t really want to buy something made by these same lazy “The world owes me a living” morons. I would rather have something made by people who will starve if they don’t do a good job building my saw!

-- I wouldn't be so arrogant if you weren't such a moron!

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#7 posted 01-29-2011 03:30 AM

It’s funny you should mention the sales from Woodcraft, that’s the only time I buy things from them or Peechtree. Their sale prices are great deals, unfortunately, they don’t put enough things on sale, or often enough! After cutting two fingers on my saw, I decided to get the Dubby Taper Jig. Regularly it’s priced at $113, I think. When Woodcraft put it on sale for $50 I jumped at the deal. It’s a perfect fit for my PM.

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#8 posted 01-29-2011 03:37 AM

Is ther anything wrong with a used PM 66. I have bought 3 of them recently and converted from 3 phase to 1 phase 3 hp. I paid $500 or less for each of them and repowered with motors purchased off e-bay $200 each and sold these saws for less than $1000.

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#9 posted 01-29-2011 04:20 AM

I have a PM2000 and it has been great saw. You might look in my projects and see the assembly table/catch table/storage unit I made to use with my saw. I paid $2699 which included tax, delivery with tailgate service. For what your paying you cannot go wrong.

-- Mc Bridge Cabinets, Iowa

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#10 posted 01-29-2011 04:36 AM

I have only one minor issue with my PM 2000. The Tha tape measure for the fence must have been stretched during installation and “grows” 3/16” in 48”.
Other than that the saw has performed flawlessly for 4 yrs.
I have the 5hp and sure didn’t get the price your getting. Mine was $2300 which was a cheap as I could find at the time. For $1800 I would be all over that deal, especially with the router lift included.

-- Gary; Marysville, MI...Involve your children in your projects as much as possible, the return is priceless.

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#11 posted 01-29-2011 08:45 PM

I agree, that’s a helluva deal! The Saw Stop would be great, but a PM at that price, hard to beat.

-- Brad, Oregon- The things that come to those who wait, may be the things left by those who got there first.

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#12 posted 01-30-2011 12:37 AM

Would LOVE a PM66 I just can’t seem to find a decent price on one around here. I had a deal in place for a 1960’s PM66 for $800 out of pocket but the seller backed out at the very last minute. If I find one for $500 I will buy it immediately! Powermatic stuff goes like hotcakes in the Seattle area. I have seen 5 or 6 PM66 or PM2000 listed used for $1,500 in the last month and they have all sold.

-- I wouldn't be so arrogant if you weren't such a moron!

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