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Blog entry by Cricket posted 167 days ago 1535 reads 0 times favorited 14 comments Add to Favorites Watch

Hendrik Varju is a well known furniture designer/craftsman who operates
“Passion for Wood” near Toronto, Canada. He also offers woodworking courses
and seminars and has been widely published in woodworking magazines in
Canada, the U.S., the U.K. and Australia. In 2007, Hendrik started
producing DVD courses and he has offered to provide some of them as prizes
in Lumberjocks contests. You can see the full list of all of Hendrik’s DVD
courses here: http://passionforwood.com/woodworking/dvds.htm .

This week, the prize is Hendrik’s seventh DVD course called “Using and
Tuning Your Bandsaw”.
It is almost 8 hours long and focuses on bandsaw
set-up, fine tuning, blade changing, etc., including both a 14” cast iron
bandsaw and a 16” cabinet type bandsaw. It also covers bandsaw use,
including ripping, crosscutting, resawing, curve cutting, circle cutting and
even some joinery work. A long and detailed bonus section covers how to
make templates with your bandsaw in order to tackle template routing
operations later. You can read more about this 4-DVD set here:
http://passionforwood.com/woodworking/dvds-bandsaw.htm. It is valued at
Cdn. $89.95 + taxes and shipping.

To enter to win this contest, just post a comment giving your answer to this
question: “In your opinion, what makes a bandsaw such a versatile machine
compared to a tablesaw, and what are the bandsaw’s limitations?” Post a
comment before March 28, 2014 and Hendrik will choose his
favourite answer. Then we’ll let you know how to claim your prize. Hendrik
will ship it directly to your home at no cost to you.

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VarnellWoodworks

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#1 posted 167 days ago

In my opinion, the band saw is more versatile than a table saw because of the special operations that a band saw can perform. As we all know, both the band saw and the table saw can perform rip cuts, crosscuts, joinery, but where a band saw excels at is in curves, re-sawing and can even assist in sculpting. Band saws can even take a potentially hazardous cut performed on a table saw and make it safe.

The are only a few limitations on the band saw that I can come up with, that is why it is one of the more versatile of shop machines. One limitation is very tight “scrolling type” curves. The smallest thickness of a band saw blade that I have seen is 1/8”. While this is a great size blade to make small curves and tight radius cuts, if you truly want to do scroll work, than this is not the machine for you. The other limitation that I have found is blade drift. This can be corrected to a point and at times can be eliminated completely but it is something all band saws have and have to be dealt with by the owner, especially in thick cuts.

This is my own opinion, and as the saying goes, opinions are like teeth, everybody has them, some more than others.

—Dustin

-- I am who I am and thats all that I am. ------Dustin

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DIYaholic

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#2 posted 167 days ago

Versatility of the Bandsaw lies in….
1) It’s ability to do BOTH straight & curved cuts.
2) It’s ability to do BOTH cross cuts & rip cuts.
3) It’s resawing capabilities, for both dimensioning & veneer work.
4) Thin kerf is another added benefit.
5) Small intricate cuts are made in a safer manner.

A Bandsaw’s limitations….
1) Bandsaw dimensions limit cross cuts, resaw height & stock width.
2) Cannot really do (long) “non-thru” cuts for rabets & dados.
3) Cannot use “molding heads” & dado blades.
4) Cannot do (long) cove cuts.
5) Limited table size & blade location, prevents the BS from effectively being used as a workbench.

That’s all I got off the top of my head…..

-- Randy-- I may not be good...but I am slow! If good things come to those who wait.... Why is procratination a bad thing?

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lightweightladylefty

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#3 posted 167 days ago

I like the fact that the bandsaw wastes very little material compared to the tablesaw, and is much safer for small pieces. It works well for rough cutting patterns, then spindle sanding the edges to perfection to be used with a pattern bit in the router.

The bandsaw is not a tool for someone with poor vision. With the tablesaw, I am able to get as close as necessary to the blade to see where to set the fence or miter gauge to make an accurate cut and then turn on the saw and proceed. When attempting to follow a curved line on the bandsaw, one must be able to see the line to follow it, which limits bandsaw use when accuracy is essential.

L/W

-- Jesus is the ONLY reason for ANY season.

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Woodenwizard

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#4 posted 167 days ago

There’s too many choices to make,
when shopping for tools until late.
A table or band saw the question is posed,
which one is best do you suppose.

Now the table saw is mighty and strong,
with a blade that spins and hums like a song.
Producing a cut that is crisp, straight and true,
a tool such as this would be just right for you.

But the band saw cuts straight and is powerful too,
and seldom has kick back that could injure you.
But straight lines is not all a band saw can make,
when cutting circles, and curves this saw is great.

The list of great things the band saw has made
continues to grow as you tension the blade.
When slicing up logs or cutting veneer,
this saw’s so awesome we just want to cheer.

But wait what about dado’s, rabbits and such,
the band saw’s not handy at doing these much.
Cutting large panels can be a real test
and cross cutting long boards is limited at best.

the dilemma remains of which saw to choose
and weighing the facts there is nothing to loose.
I will take both of these saws for my shop today
and explain to the wife there was no other way.

-- John, Colorado's (Wooden Wizard)

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soccer2010

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#5 posted 166 days ago

I just got my Dad’s old bandsaw so I’m looking forward to learning more about the different uses of a bandsaw. I am most looking forward to learning how to properly resaw lumber. A table saw is very good for straight cuts, where a scroll saw is great for intricate cuts and a bandsaw can do much of what both of these can. The limitations of a bandsaw are the limits of size of lumber ripping (compared to a table saw) and the tightness of curve cuts (compared to a scroll saw).

-- John

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bglenden

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#6 posted 165 days ago

Plus wrt a table saw:

1) Straight and curves
2) No kickback
3) Resaw

Minus:

1) Limited crosscut ability
2) More tuning needed
3) Small tables

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Dan Lyke

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#7 posted 165 days ago

I think Woodenwizard is the clear leader so far, but:

My Dad has a few short fingers because of a table saw accident, and my brother-in-law has a SawStop, because of what he’s seen. I get along pretty darned well with a track saw and a router table for all of the cuts that people normally do on a table saw, both because our shop is small, and because my wife has laid down the law:

She would reluctantly allow a SawStop into the shop, but has put the strong kibosh on any other sort of tablesaw.

We did, however, recently drive into the backwoods of Sonoma County to buy a bandsaw off of Craigslist, managed to load it into the back of her car, brought it home, set it up. I did a few cuts, she did a few cuts, started to get comfortable with it, work on some of the projects she’d been doing with hand tools.

She finished one cut, quiet enough that neither of us had to wear hearing protection, turned to me said “Wow, this is nice…”, paused for a beat, then continued ”...it’s mine now.”

So the difference between a bandsaw and a table saw? She likes bandsaws.

And the shop is small, but if the right deal came along so we could have two bandsaws, one saw set up for curves and one for resawing, I’d get no pushback.

-- Dan Lyke, Petaluma California, http://www.flutterby.net/User:DanLyke

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medelman

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#8 posted 164 days ago

Thinking about the versatility of the bandsaw, reminded me of my teenage years. I’m now 37 years old and back when I was in high school wood shop was a class that was offered that I have fond memories of. At first I was pretty intimated by the class because I was raised by my widowed mom in a single parent environment and my exposure to “tools” was very limited. The other reason is because I was born with dwarfism and I stand at a height of 4’2” so my reach is limited.

All of the industrial sized power tools were massive compared to me. Regardless, like everything else in my life, I tried to find accommodations I could make that would allow me to work in the environment without affecting the others around me, or being to much of a burden.

My teacher was very supportive of me and in most cases I was able to use a wooden platform I could move around to each station to allow me to reach things without the risk of falling off a stool, etc.
Because of my limited reach, the bandsaw allowed me to accomplish some of the tasks similar to what the tablesaw could without comprising my safety when I needed to reach across the table. Sure I was limited in size as far as what I could cut, and I still had to use the table saw to do things like dado’s, but the bandsaw allowed me to gain confidence in myself and my ability to create things. I still own several of the projects I made in that class including a simple wooden tool box that was my first creation.

Up until a few years ago I did not own any woodworking tools other then a drill, but my grandma was moving out of her house and into a nursing home and my grandfather who died before I was born had several tools. One of them was a 12 inch craftsman bandsaw that I am now the proud owner of. I’ve run it a few times with the original blade still in it, but haven’t had chance to tune it yet and not sure where to start.

These videos would allow me to build confidence in using the bandsaw again and allow me to show my daughter that sometimes accomplishing things is only limited by your imagination.

Matt

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TopamaxSurvivor

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#9 posted 158 days ago

It is so much easier to cut curves. So much safer to rip and not have any kidkback.

-- "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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Hendrik

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#10 posted 158 days ago

Tomorrow is the deadline on this contest folks. Anyone else interested in posting a comment for a chance to win?

Hendrik

-- Fine furniture design/build, woodworking instruction and lots more -- www.passionforwood.com

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CharlesA

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#11 posted 157 days ago

The biggest limitation of the bandsaw is easy: the throat capacity limits the size of the piece of wood for cross-cutting and other kinds of cuts.

The biggest advantages:
1) So quick and easy to make a cut—less setup time than a table saw on simple cuts
2) safer than a table saw
3) ability to cut curves
4) Height of resawing with little wasted wood

Charles

-- "Man is the only animal which devours his own, for I can apply no milder term to the general prey of the rich on the poor." ~Thomas Jefferson

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Vertigo

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#12 posted 156 days ago

I believe bandsaws are a shop essential. They excel at cutting curves and resawing. They are also very adept at cutting certain joinery i.e. Tenons and dovetails or box joints. You can also use a properly tuned saw for ripping smaller material. By smaller I mean something that can be safely supported by the size of the table. They breakdown in ability when larger material is involved. I’m a contractor by trade so a lot if times I have to rip 16’ lengths of lumber for trim or other tasks. NOT something I would want to try on a bandsaw! For this a TS is the only way to go. I also prefer the tablesaw for cabinet making. Breaking down sheet good in particular. Something else the bandsaw is not able to do without major “jiggery”. These two tasks could though, still be accomplished on a bandsaw. The only thing a bandsaw absolutely cannot do. Is non-through cuts. Dadoes can only be done at a table saw or with a router.
In conclusion the bandsaw can do most things a tablesaw can. Depending on your style of woodworking I would say you could get away with a bandsaw only. It is only limited in a few areas and if paired with a capable router you can do anything. Where there’s a will there’s a way

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cdarney

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#13 posted 156 days ago

I got a bandsaw within a year after getting my first table saw. I needed (wanted?) something to be able to resaw board for a book-matched project I was working on. Since then I’ve found many uses for it that are just better, easier or safer than other shop tools like the table saw. I would be far more inclined to allow a novice in my shop to use the bandsaw than I would the table saw.

The bandsaw is my go to machine for the obvious like cutting curves but it’s the same for smaller pieces that would put my fingers too close to a spinning table saw blade. I find it more “friendly” in that it’s quieter and the dust is better controlled. I particularly like using it for making multiple cuts to exotic (read expensive) woods since the blade’s kerf is far less than the table saw. I’ve even tried taking advantage of the small kerf to cut dovetails. That’s a work in progress.

The BS doesn’t do very well with longer rip cuts or for making “glue ready” cuts. That’s for the table saw. It also doesn’t do stock where the cut piece is longer than 15 inches or so. Since my BS table doesn’t tilt very far, angled or compound angled cuts are limited compared to the table saw.

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Cricket

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#14 posted 155 days ago

cdarney you are the winner!
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