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Dust Collector Installed - Finally!

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Blog entry by ChunkyC posted 11-01-2009 06:09 PM 1694 reads 1 time favorited 15 comments Add to Favorites Watch

Well I finally got around to permanently installing my Dust Collector. I’ve was using a 10’ piece of flex hose that I would connect to whatever tool I was using at the time. It worked fine but hooking the hose to the tablesaw meant that I had to lay on the floor. Not the best solution for those of us with a bad back.

Here is the system installed. It’s all 4” S&D pipe that I got at Menards and I used caulking to glue it together. I used a Loctite product called “Instant Grab,” I think that’s the name of it.

I’ve only hard piped the one side of the shop right now. I’ve not devised a plan and put it in stone yet so I’ll wait on that part.

The drop on the far right is a permanent drop that goes to the table saw. The drop on the middle is a “flex” connection for tools such as the planer, down draft table, floor sweeper, ros etc. The one on the far right is the connecting to the DC.

This is a picture of the brackets that I made to mount the pipe to the wall

Challenge #1:
The biggest challenge is trying to figure out how to connect the 4” flex hose to the 4” S&D Pipe. I still don’t have a solution for this! I did find / read that a 4” blast gate will fit inside 4” S&D pipe. I just added a couple rounds of blue tape to the blast gate to help make up some of the slop, then used the caulking to hold it fast.

Challenge #2:
The other challenge is finding a way to hang the S&D pipe. They don’t really make any hangers for it as its really meant to be used underground. Maybe they do, but I couldn’t find any. So what I did was to use 2 hole straps for DWV pipe. The problem here is that DWV pipe has a much larger outside diameter than the S&D pipe so the clamps fit loose.

Solution:
I used sticky back foam rubber “tape” to make of the difference. I had some camper tape laying around, the one on the right in the picture below, that I cut about a 4” piece from and stuck it to a 8-1/2”x1”x3/4 plywood “spacer.” Then I screwed the spacer to the wall. For the pipe, I found this rubber pipe insulation stuff at the Depot that I cut in 10” lengths and add 2 lengths one on top of the other to the pipe. Now when you tighten the 2 hole clamp, it fits nice an snug and I hope the rubber helps with vibration.

Now if I could just con someone into coming over to look at the new setup, I might just be able to hold them hostage long enough to hang that darned drywall! grrr

Thanks for reading,

-- Chunk's Workshop pictures: http://spadfest.rcspads.com/thumbnails.php?album=135



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#1 posted 11-01-2009 06:15 PM

Chunk, this looks like a pretty good job to me. And you did a good job on being so imaginative about the fittings. It looks like you are going to have a first rate shop when everything is finished.

-- Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful- Joshua Marine

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#2 posted 11-01-2009 06:25 PM

I just found this: http://www.woodworkingtips.com/etips/2006/07/28/wb/

”use a 4″ x 3″ PVC toilet flange to make a dust-collection port. The flex hose fits snugly over the flange. And best of all, it doesn’t require any modification.”

I haven’t tried this yet but I’ll picking up a 3” Johnny flange at the LHS store when I make my daily pilgrimage to the hardware store!

-- Chunk's Workshop pictures: http://spadfest.rcspads.com/thumbnails.php?album=135

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#3 posted 11-01-2009 07:03 PM

Looks real good Chunk, I wish my basement layout would work for such an arrangement.

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#4 posted 11-01-2009 07:10 PM

Is S&D pipe electrical conduit? It looks like a very nice set up. I used plastic plumbers tape to hang my pvc system.

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#5 posted 11-01-2009 07:27 PM

S&D = Sewer and Drain (Thin wall and very light) DWV = Drain Waste and Vent (Thick wall and heavy!)

It’s thin wall 4” PVC pipe. It’s primary use is for underground drainage. It comes with a “Bell End” on one end so that you don’t need unions / couplers. The stuff also comes perforated, no good for DC but it does a real nice job in a septic leach field. It run $5.99 / stick at Menards, gray, $6.99 at the Depot, white and $7.99 at my LHS, white.

-- Chunk's Workshop pictures: http://spadfest.rcspads.com/thumbnails.php?album=135

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#6 posted 11-01-2009 08:27 PM

I think it looks great!

My DC should be on its way. In the beginning, I’ll just wheel it from toy to toy.

Incidentally, I save all my old inner tubes that get punctured while bicycling. They make great non-slip “shims” to take up just the sort of slack you’re facing on your clamps. I’d also think galvanized hanger tape might adjust more easily, but not look as clean.

Good job!

-- -- Neil

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#7 posted 11-01-2009 10:50 PM

Update: Well I got to spend some quality time today with the TS, planner and dust collector. I have to say that the hard piping is meeting my expectations. The blast gates leak a little which is a bit of an annoyance but something that I can definitely live with. The one thing that I really like about it is that is very solidly mounted to wall. I was a little concerned that as you start pulling on the blast gates that the pipe would move. I can say that it definitely does not move. Now I just need to work on the second run to the other side of the shop.

I also meant to mention that it’s all assembled without using any 90 degree fittings. All the 90 degree turns are accomplished by back to back 45’s, with a short 6” piece between, or long sweeping 4” flex hose.

-- Chunk's Workshop pictures: http://spadfest.rcspads.com/thumbnails.php?album=135

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#8 posted 11-02-2009 05:07 AM

That’s a nice set up Chuck but how do you use your TS with that planer in the way?

Bothus

-- Jerry Boshear, Professional Kitchen Designer, amature woodworker.

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#9 posted 11-02-2009 05:25 AM

Man that looks good… I was planning on using plastic strapping for mine. I think I am going to steal your idea. That is just too slick to not copy.

-- My workshop blog can be found at http://daves-workshop.blogspot.com

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#10 posted 11-02-2009 05:58 AM

>> how do you use your TS with that planer in the way?

It takes a bit of finesse but when you get it all setup, your rips go right into the planer and you get a rip cut and flat surface all in one shot!

-- Chunk's Workshop pictures: http://spadfest.rcspads.com/thumbnails.php?album=135

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#11 posted 11-02-2009 06:01 AM

I think the 2 hole straps at the Depot were around $1.60 or so a piece. I know it wasn’t .60 but it was in that neighborhood. The insulating tape was back where they have all the tin fittings for the HVAC duct work and it was $7ish give or take. Sorry about the pricing but I seldom ever look at how much something costs. If you need it, then you need it.

-- Chunk's Workshop pictures: http://spadfest.rcspads.com/thumbnails.php?album=135

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#12 posted 11-02-2009 06:55 PM

Hey chunk: Nice set-up. Coming right along. Before long you’ll be in full swing.

It’s tough getting on a ladder up and down, especially with a bad back. Been there—— done that a few times. Just take it easy and work at a good pace—- you’ll get ‘er done. Rick (aka Tubby) !!!!!

-- At my age, an "all--nighter" is not having to get up and pee...!!!

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#13 posted 11-03-2009 06:23 AM

Rick: Yeah it won’t be too long now before I get started on the new bed for the spare room.

Actually the ladder doesn’t bother me too bad, other than the intense fear of heights. What gets me is bending over. If you were to look at my kitchen, ever bottom shelf is empty or has stuff stuck down there that I’ll never use like the coffee pot. I actually have a wheeled office chair that I roll all over the shop in. Saves my back and it’s entertaining too! Lots of fun – WWWEEeeeee! lol

-- Chunk's Workshop pictures: http://spadfest.rcspads.com/thumbnails.php?album=135

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#14 posted 11-03-2009 08:26 AM

Amen on the bending over—boy , that’s the toughest part. After 2 back surgeries, the 2 worst things are making a bed, and washing dishes— killers. Don’t know what it is, but those 2 postions just kill me !!!
Plus———I had full knee replacements on both my knees last year. They are coming along nicely, but the ole back will never be the same. Working in the shop isn’t too bad, s long as I don’t do it for long periods.

-- At my age, an "all--nighter" is not having to get up and pee...!!!

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#15 posted 11-03-2009 03:58 PM

Washing the dishes is because you have to stoop over ever so slightly. It’s not enough to really notice, but after about 4 minutes of that, I’m done. I knew a guy that broke his back and he says that he made a very low nealing stool (11” tall if I remember correctly) and he neals on it while doing the dishes. No back aches from doing dishes. Never tried it.

Making the bed? Not famliur with that one. lol

-- Chunk's Workshop pictures: http://spadfest.rcspads.com/thumbnails.php?album=135

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