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Greene inspired Night Stand #10: Laying in the bottom

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Blog entry by ChicoWoodnut posted 04-20-2008 03:35 AM 1606 reads 0 times favorited 15 comments Add to Favorites Watch
« Part 9: Laying in the front top stretcher Part 10 of Greene inspired Night Stand series Part 11: Dust Panel construction - Thinking out loud »

Here is number ten of my Greene and Greene inspired nightstand.

I put the bottoms in today. It took me a while as I was very nervous about screwing something up at this late stage in the game. Also, since the bottom holds everything in place, I wanted to make sure it was the right place :)

So I started by running a 3/4×1/4 dado around the inside of all the bottom rails. I referenced the cuts from the tops because I want the center stiles to have no ugly spaces where they meet the panel rails.

Dado

I took a piece of scrap plywood and roughly cut out the corners to reference against the legs. I used this to draw lines on the legs where I needed to remove material for the cutouts.

Scrap

Now that I had the lines on all the legs, I dissassembled the piece and drew two more lines 1/4 inch down from the edge. This gives me a reference for the depth.

Layout

Another job for my sweet little english back saw.

Saw

The first cut.

And the second. (My 8 year old left me a birthday present on the bench)

I chopped out the waste.

Here it is all finished.

All finito (Times eight) Note the piece of scrap in the mortice. That is to keep from blowing out the back with the chisel (I learned this the hard way. Not much damage though)

Here is one of the side panels assembled.

And the birch plywood bottom all tucked in.

I am really happy with the way it turned out. Getting close to glueup time. (But it’s beer time now)

-- Scott - Chico California http://chicowoodnut.home.comcast.net



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GaryK

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#1 posted 04-20-2008 03:42 AM

Glue-up is a special time. Sometimes a little scary. Did I forget something?

Good luck.

-- Gary - Never pass up the opportunity to make a mistake look like you planned it that way - Tyler, TX

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ChicoWoodnut

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#2 posted 04-20-2008 03:46 AM

Oops I left out a picture.

This glueup has me really nervous but I think everything referencing off the bottom will make it a little easier. This will give me an excuse to go get some more clamps too.

-- Scott - Chico California http://chicowoodnut.home.comcast.net

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TheCaver

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#3 posted 04-20-2008 04:35 AM

Hand tools! Eeek!

Great job! Now, I have one question. I can’t for the life of me figure this line out:

I referenced the cuts from the tops because I want the center stile to have no ugly spaces where it meets the rails.

I know I am missing something simple here…..

Thanks!

JC

-- Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. -Carl Sagan

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ChicoWoodnut

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#4 posted 04-20-2008 04:46 AM

Well JC, I have discovered that one of the difficult things about this design is the fact that the rails are curved. I think when I did the templates there was a little less than 1/16 difference in the width (not length) of the rails. So using the first picture as a reference, imagine that the rail on the left is 1/16” narrower than the one in the back. If I referenced the dado from the bottom, the left rail would be 1/16 inch below the center stile when I put in the bottom.

HTH

-- Scott - Chico California http://chicowoodnut.home.comcast.net

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#5 posted 04-20-2008 07:11 AM

That is very interesting blog.
Great job.
Thanks for posting.

-- Jiri

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RonPage

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#6 posted 04-20-2008 09:05 AM

What really whacks this project out is the quadalmadation of the reduration ratio with the curve. Wow…Nice job!!!

Thanks for a great post!

-- Ron, Bakersfield, CA. Measure twice, cut twice anyway.

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#7 posted 04-20-2008 12:38 PM

Hi Scott,

This has been a nice posting series. I tend to agree with Gary about the glue-up being the most intimidating phase of the operation. From here there is no turning back.

I am looking forward to the the next step.

-- Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful- Joshua Marine

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#8 posted 04-20-2008 04:03 PM

Scott – just goes to show patience and planning pays off. As I went down the pictures I came to a screeching stop when I saw the backsaw in place – talk about short strokes. Good luck with the glue-up. When I’m nervous about the glue-up I give myself lots of open time by using epoxy.

Phil

-- Phil in British Columbia

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abie

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#9 posted 04-20-2008 06:48 PM

Scott: it’s looking good even for a Chicoian..
what is the the hand pruning saw for in all the back ground shots?
just kidding..
People from chico know full well..
Great project
can’t wait to get my photos of my Greene and Greene inspsiration showing.
Bruce

-- Bruce. a mind is like a book it is only useful when open.

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Topapilot

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#10 posted 04-21-2008 05:09 PM

“quadalmadation of the reduration ratio with the curve” – what he said!

Scott,
Good call on referencing the grooves, if you hadn’t caught that now it would have bugged you for weeks afterward. I thought this was an ambitious project when you first posted your sketchup files. Now that you’re well into the carcass, is it the amount of work you were expecting? Your attention to detail is certainly paying off, the project looks great, but I’m worn out trying to keep track of the cuts in each leg.

Good work, and keep up the pics!
Robb

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FloridaNoCypress

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#11 posted 04-21-2008 08:36 PM

Thank you, Scott, for your posting to my blog. And your nightstand looks great.

So, is it possible that the Greene brothers used some Valley Oak? What other furniture / cabinet grade species are in California?

-- FloridaNoCypress

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ChicoWoodnut

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#12 posted 04-22-2008 03:29 AM

Hi FloridaNoCypress. See my reply your original post. I don’t know if the Greenes used Valley Oak. Pasadena is about 500 miles south of here and I don’t know too much about the area other than it’s really crowded and smoggy.

Bruce, you do know very well that the trees in Chico are enormous and given their own would soon obliterate the city :) Thank you John Bidwell

And Robb, I knew going into this that it would be an ambitious project. I didn’t know how ambitious though. I am known in my professional world as a project manager who never fails (knock on wood). Challenges are for overcoming. Planning is everything.

You are right. the legs look like swiss cheese LOL

-- Scott - Chico California http://chicowoodnut.home.comcast.net

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Topapilot

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#13 posted 04-22-2008 06:37 PM

Scott,
What would have been the impact of NOT setting the bottom into the legs? If it rides only in the grooves in the side panels I would think it would be plenty strong, but you might get gaps around the legs of the wood shrinks. Is that the only issue?
Robb

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ChicoWoodnut

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#14 posted 04-22-2008 07:11 PM

I actually tried that but I wasn’t satisfied with my ability to make it look good (no gaps). I stood there looking at it thinking to myself “I’m going to hate those little gaps every time I open the door”

-- Scott - Chico California http://chicowoodnut.home.comcast.net

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Dorje

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#15 posted 04-23-2008 06:09 AM

You made a good call here – looks like it turned out great!

-- Dorje (pronounced "door-jay"), Seattle, WA

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