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General Topics #3: Putting the shop back in order

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Blog entry by Jeff posted 03-27-2007 07:14 AM 1404 reads 0 times favorited 10 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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I’ve been a little busy at at my technology job like WayneC but I was lucky enough to get over to the shop both Saturday and Sunday. I got the TS retuned, sucked all the excess dust out and waxed the table. She’s ready to make some new dust. After that, I set up my new Jet 16” bandsaw and the mobile base. I bought a Kreg fence but didn’t have time to get it installed since I have to drill an extra hole in the rail to fit the table (it’s geared toward the 14” saw segment). It cuts like a hot knife through butter. I took a lot of time leveling and squaring everything as related to the table. There might be just a hair imbalance in the wheels but it’s pretty darn sweet just out of the box. Can’t wait to actually try some 6” or larger resaws…

Pics to come for posting on the shop page. The place was still just to disorganized.

-- Jeff, St. Paul, MN



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gizmodyne

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#1 posted 03-27-2007 04:05 PM

Out of the basement now?

Glad to hear everything is up and running.

I did buy and Olsen resawish blade for the Jet 16”. I forgot to mention that to you before.

But I agree I love that saw.

Make some dust!

-- -John "Do I have to keep typing a smiley? Just assume it's a joke." www.flickr.com/photos/gizmodyne

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WayneC

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#2 posted 03-27-2007 05:17 PM

What are your thoughts on the Jet 16” vs. the various higher end 14” saws? Delta X5, Powermatic and Rikon? I have a new bandsaw on my nearer term wishlist.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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gizmodyne

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#3 posted 03-27-2007 09:28 PM

It probably depends on what you want to do. I knew I was going to resaw, the jet offers this capacity out of the box without adding a riser.

Rockler had a deal of $800 for the saw and fence and “instructional” video.

The saw is large if space is an issue. I have not gotten it to bog down though. I really have not used any bandsaw smaller than 16”, but I read many reviews and decided to take the plunge.

-- -John "Do I have to keep typing a smiley? Just assume it's a joke." www.flickr.com/photos/gizmodyne

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oscorner

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#4 posted 03-28-2007 01:23 AM

I’m glad to hear that you are back in business, especially with the looming deadline on getting your wife’s gift completed.

-- Jesus is Lord!

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Jeff

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#5 posted 03-28-2007 03:56 AM

Thanks guys! One clarification though. This all happened last summer… I was able to get the shop set up towards the end of last season but didn’t have much time to really get anything of substance accomplished. I should have at least 6 months of time in the shop this season if this early spring we are having holds. Who knows…

My posting was sort of a cathardic thing for me; kinda like Duty’s posts. I’ve told our friends and family the whole sorted story but now it is ‘officially’ out of my system as I have shared it with LumberJocks who can understand my plight on more than one level. My first post about not blogging was sort of a segue into the neighbor story. Nonetheless, I greatly appreciate everyone’s comments and support.

-- Jeff, St. Paul, MN

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Jeff

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#6 posted 03-28-2007 04:22 AM

Wayne,

I can’t contribute too much input to the 14” saws vs the 16”. I can say that one of my main driving factors was ample resaw capability with having to do a riser block. I read in a FWW article that it was not the best option to use risers. Their reasoning was sound to me (something to do with frame warping under the high tension needed to resaw). Thus, I began to investigate the Rikon Deluxe 14 inch model because the price point was right and Woodcraft was having a sale that included power tools. The local store did not have any in stock but would order it and give me the discount price. I decided to thinkg on it since it wasn’t right there. I decided to visit the Rockler store and found the same deal Giz mentioned ($800). As it turns out, the guy helping me used to work for Woodcraft and had the 18”. He loves it and said he would buy another one but did admit he got a 30% employee discount. He said though all his other major tools were Jet and he swears by them. We talked pros and cons, etc. I got a good feeling from the guy. Not one where a little voice was telling me I was being taken… I asked if he would hold the saw for me for the day (it was last one). He had no problem with that so that reinforced my belief in his claims. Thus, I went with the Jet knowing there were a few features I would sacrafice by not getting the Rikon.

Pros vs. Cons as I see it:
Warranty: Jet = 5yr vs. Rikon = 2yr
Resaw Capability: Rikon = 13.5” vs. Jet = 10”
Ease of untensioning blade: Rikon = quick release handle vs. Jet = slow crank
Tensioner location: Jet = bottom of upper housing vs Rikon = top of upper housing
Tensioning spring: Jet = looked stouter upon visual inspection
Cabinet; Fit an Finish: Jet = much more substancial construction overall and uses heavier gauge material
Table size: Rikon’s is bigger. The Jet is disappointingly small (16×16)

I just felt better about the Jet after I gave it some thought. One other factor was how easy it was to get parts (according to the guy at Rockler). If you couldn’t find a part it literally came from China on the slow boat. I know all parts come from China for the most part but it seemed less likely to me that I would have trouble getting something for a Jet. This turned into a lengthy post it seems. I hope it was beneficial though…

-- Jeff, St. Paul, MN

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WayneC

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#7 posted 03-28-2007 04:28 AM

Thanks. It is very helpful. I keep hoping a used industral saw will come my way. Of course space would probably be an issue. I looked at the Rikon again last Friday and the Jet a while back. I have a friend with a saw with 12” resaw capability and will probably wait for a few months (depending on what the taxman says) before I commit.

I used a powermatic 14” a while back and thought it was a pretty nice saw as well.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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BassBully

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#8 posted 03-28-2007 05:15 AM

Caliper. Glad to know that the basement incident is history. Maybe you can record the sound of your band saw cutting wood and play the tape in the basement for old times sake. Maybe you’ll stir up your neighbor again. Just kidding.

Anyway, happy for you that you have a good band saw. I’m using a Craftsman 14” I bought a couple of years ago. I really like it though but it’s a 14” and I don’t know why they call it that since I can’t really cut anything at 14 inches. I’d like to try a new blade. The one that came with it just doesn’t seem to hack it for some applications, e.g., cutting small logs for turning.

-- There are three types of people in the world, those who can count and those who can't!

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Jeff

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#9 posted 03-28-2007 05:56 AM

BB,

Devious minds think alike. I’m sure it would stir things up. I still have my chop saw down there just because…

-- Jeff, St. Paul, MN

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WayneC

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#10 posted 03-28-2007 11:29 PM

BB - See if you can find a timberwolf blade

A good source of information on blade selection is The Bandsaw Book by Lonnie Bird

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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