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Saw Talk #26: Shopping list for the upcoming saw sharpening video

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Preparations for the video are progressing well and I hope to start recording shortly. I was asked over on the Saws, using collecting, cleaning and buying thread if I would put together a list of the things you will need to follow along with my upcoming saw sharpening video.

Here is a list of what I consider to be essential items:

1) A 10-12” second cut hand file for jointing the teeth. You can use a shorter file if you are using a holder like the Veritas Jointer/Edger or one of the antique versions of a file holder. Some people also prefer to use a mill file for this operation.

2) The correct tapered saw file for the saw you intend to sharpen first. I suggest you start with a rip-filed saw. It can be a backsaw like a tenon saw if you wish or a 24”-28” rip saw, but you might find sharpening a dovetail saw a bit challenging at first due to the small teeth. It is probably best to start on a saw with teeth in the range of 5ppi to 11ppi so you can see the teeth easily. See below for a list of the files that correspond to different size teeth. You will also need a suitable handle for the file you select.

In the US and Canada, Grobet saw files are the best and are available from Lie Nielsen, Lee Valley and Tools for Working Wood. In Europe, Vallorbe files are the best and are available from Classic Hand Tools and Axminster Tool Centre.

3) A means of holding your saw firmly while you file the teeth. This could be one of the many vintage saw vises, the new saw vise from Tools for Working Wood, a home made saw vise (here's the one I made, but you’ll find many other designs if you google ‘saw vise’), or the most basic method which is to sandwhich your saw plate between two pieces of wood in a vise.

4) A suitable saw set. I would recommend either the Stanley No.42 or the Eclipse No.77. These are both vintage saw sets and are readily available on ebay.com for the Stanley No.42 and ebay.co.uk for the Eclipse No.77. If you intend to buy vintage, please research the saw set you intend to buy before bidding to ensure you know what you’re looking for. There are new copies of the Eclipse design available today made by Somax which are available in the US and Canada from Tools for Working Wood. If you are in Europe you can buy the Somax saw sets from Axminster Tool Centre or Workshop Heaven.

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Other items that are not essential but that I will be using in the video are:

1) A packet of cigarette papers or feeler gauges (metric or imperial).
2) A flat reference surface such as the top of a table saw or bandsaw, a granite slab (kitchen worktop) or a sheet of float glass.
3) A fine tipped black permanent marker.
4) A fine diamond stone. This doesn’t have to be as big as a bench stone that you would sharpen plane irons on. It can be a small diamond stone like you might use for touching up router bits.
5) A 4” long piece of scrap softwood (approximately 1” x 5/8”)

-- Andy -- Old Chinese proverb say: If you think something can't be done, don't interrupt man who is doing it.



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Don W

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#1 posted 545 days ago

and a six pack!!

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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Brit

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#2 posted 545 days ago

Absolutely Don. Just make sure it is this kind of six pack…

...and not this kind of six pack as this isn’t essential for sharpening saws.

Will somebody let this poor chap know, because I think he’s a wee bit confused?

-- Andy -- Old Chinese proverb say: If you think something can't be done, don't interrupt man who is doing it.

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ShaneA

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#3 posted 545 days ago

Cigarette papers? Nice, mellow me out some before the big movie.

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Brit

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#4 posted 545 days ago

You’re mellow enough Shane. Say NO to the whacky backy.

-- Andy -- Old Chinese proverb say: If you think something can't be done, don't interrupt man who is doing it.

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Mauricio

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#5 posted 545 days ago

Imperial cigarette papers? Where do I get those? Sounds like Shane knows.

-- Mauricio - Woodstock, GA - "Confusion is the Womb of Learning, with utter conviction being it's Tomb" Prof. T.O. Nitsch

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chrisstef

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#6 posted 545 days ago

Maur – theyre behind the counter, you gotta ask the clerk. <innocent>

Thanks for the list Andy. I hope to be all prepped up for the world premiere. Have you made your decision on whos doing your make up for the shoot? Don or Shane?

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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Stephenw

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#7 posted 545 days ago

I’m looking forward to the video.

You really should put a new top on your Workmate.

-- http://www.garagebulletin.com/

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ksSlim

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#8 posted 544 days ago

Thanks for the list Andy!

Looking forward to improving my “scratch the tooth” skills.

I’ve learned a lot from your blogs!

-- Sawdust and shavings are therapeutic

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jjw5858

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#9 posted 544 days ago

Looking forward to the video as well!

Here’s some most excellent brew regarding any alcohol powered saw sharpening duties…..lol.

KOLSCH

KEEP ON SAWYERS!!

-- "Make something you love tomorrow...and do it slowly" JLB

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chrisstef

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#10 posted 457 days ago

There’s been rumors floating around that your world debut is getting close. Ive carved out a few hours here to finally get my butt in gear and order up all my supplies. I up to a dozen saws needing some work.

2 tenon saws
2 miter box saws
2 rip saws
2 crossscut saws
4 practice saws

I think ill get myself a few pints of Samuel Smith too ….

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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ShaneA

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#11 posted 457 days ago

Debut? Really, I hadn’t heard that? Can you name your sources?

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chrisstef

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#12 posted 457 days ago

Seriously … Lee Valley, TFW are out and LN doesnt have a search function … that bollocks.

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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chrisstef

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#13 posted 456 days ago

Shane – I believe I overheard / read Andy talking about his neighbor interrupting his shoot offering her husband some tea. I guess it would be more of an inference than anything else ;)

June 28th is the estimated arrival of some new stock from Grobet to LV. Why, why, why am I such a last minute guy.

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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Brit

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#14 posted 456 days ago

Weather permitting, I hope to get it ‘in the can’ this weekend which is a three day weekend in the UK. I’m trying desperately to keep it to 2 hours, but it might be a little longer. After I’ve edited the final bit, it will then take approximately 8 hours to render it in Full HD and an as yet unknown time to upload it to YouTube.

C’mon sunshine!!!!

-- Andy -- Old Chinese proverb say: If you think something can't be done, don't interrupt man who is doing it.

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chrisstef

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#15 posted 435 days ago

Here’s my order from McMaster Carr for saw files … they didn’t have everything that’s on your list exactly but they’ve got files in stock and will ship. Im uncertain as to what brand they are selling so I wanted to bounce it off the panel here:

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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