First Box #6: Almost ready to glue up!

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Blog entry by Bret posted 12-06-2009 12:31 AM 874 reads 0 times favorited 3 comments Add to Favorites Watch
« Part 5: Fresh start (so far) Part 6 of First Box series Part 7: Glued up, back to the table saw »

Today I decided that the lock miter joints just didn’t look good enough, especially since some of each corner will be exposed once I fit the walnut panel for the lid. So I trimmed each at the table saw and am pretty happy with the results. I used a different technique for this cut and it worked well enough to keep everything straight & square, at least as far as my instruments can detect.

So I then trimmed the lid panel to fit (“panel” seems an odd name for it—it’s 3/4” thick and will appear to sit atop the frame, not inside it) and dry-fit the whole shebang. Here are the results so far.


A closeup of the frame/panel joint:

And with one long side removed:

Now that the bottom (hardboard) and top are cut to fit, I trimmed down some 1/8” walnut to serve as runners for the trays that will be fitted and built later. IF you notice that I cut a groove for them on the sides as well, that’s a mistake. I may or may not worry about that, or I may fill the grooves with some 1/8” thick maple I have and cut/sand/plane it back flush.

Once I got the pieces trimmed to fit and dry-fitted, I taped either side of the groove to catch any squeeze-out and glued them in. For once, all the squeeze-out occurred on the ends, not along the length. Oh well.


I’m going to let those dry overnight and then glue up the box itself tomorrow. If anyone has an opinion on whether or not to glue the panel into the lid, I’d love to hear them. Should I leave it loose to allow for expansion or glue it in and hope for the best? It fits pretty snugly at present….

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#1 posted 12-06-2009 12:43 AM

yea allow for expansion if your talkin bout the lid just as long as its tight i also think u should use some 1/8” wood for the bottom instead of the hardboard if not use ply it just will look so much better than hardboard if it was a whatever box then that would be different but this is gonna be a sweet box i can tell.

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#2 posted 12-06-2009 04:35 PM

Bret, Looking good. I agree with the above post too. Try and find a small piece of Baltic Burch Plywood for the bottom. Also, it looks like the groves for the panel are a little shallow. Are you going to chamfer the top or put another edge treatment on it?

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#3 posted 12-06-2009 05:13 PM

I agree about the groove depth; I may deepen them a bit today but am worried that’ll introduce some looseness to the top. Honestly, I mis-cut the walnut and have had to work around the available size I had while not cutting down the box dimensions too much to fit. I’m definitely learning a lot on this one, and working without a plan has been instructional. Cutting pieces to fit the already existing pieces, while slower and serial, does feel more … correct somehow.

I had thought about chamfering the top panel and leaving the frame edges square. Maybe about 1/4” or less of chamfer, just enough to soften the edge of the panel a bit. I was actually going to post that as a question this morning, so thanks for reminding me, John. :-)

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