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Google Sketchup - Come Along for the Ride #18: Drawer sides -- struggling along

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Blog entry by Betsy posted 2078 days ago 2548 reads 0 times favorited 8 comments Add to Favorites Watch
« Part 17: Hall table - drawers -- not a good start Part 18 of Google Sketchup - Come Along for the Ride series Part 19: Plodding along on my drawer project - having issues with scaling »

It’s been a few days since I’ve worked on this—- and won’t be doing much today, but I’m working on the drawer for the hall table.

This is how I’ve redrawn it.

The sides are 1/2” x. 10.25” x 3.5”

Drew the first side to above dimensions and then made it into a component.

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Then moved the side to 13 7/8” (outside to outside) and then flipped along red axis.

(Because this is a basic rectangle – flipping it won’t look like it’s done much.)

Next I drew a rectangle from the upper left outside corner to lower right outside corner of the two sides to make the drawer front.

The push/pulled the rectangle to make the front.

Now the first problem. (Actually – this is the second issue – I can’t get all my screen shots to work). When I push pull the front – it comes out “short” to the length that I need it.

Until I can get the front to be the right length – I can’t actually drawer in my box joints and/or interface.

Any help would be appreciated.

That’s all I can do today.

Thanks

-- Like a bad penny, I keep coming back!



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ChicoWoodnut

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#1 posted 2078 days ago

Hi Betsy, Watch this video. In particular, watch the lower right hand corner of the screen. That is where I am typing in the dimensions. I almost never use the mouse to drag boxes to the correct dimensions. It is just too cumbersome. Let me know if you have any questions. I’ll be happy to help.

-- Scott - Chico California http://chicowoodnut.home.comcast.net

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ChicoWoodnut

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#2 posted 2078 days ago

The video is of much better quality at blip plus I am having trouble embedding the link. Here is the link.

http://blip.tv/file/1160443/

I’ll try to fix the embedded one.

-- Scott - Chico California http://chicowoodnut.home.comcast.net

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ChicoWoodnut

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#3 posted 2078 days ago

Sorry for all my experimenting. This one is of high quality if you are running Windows. But it might take a few to download ;)

Video thumbnail. Click to play.
Click to play

-- Scott - Chico California http://chicowoodnut.home.comcast.net

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Betsy

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#4 posted 2078 days ago

Thanks guys!

Dave – I had to scale back a bit on computer time. Looking at the screen was hurting my neck a bit. I tried several different set ups and nothing seems to work very well. So will have to limit my computer time until after I get the neck brace off (another 4-5 weeks).

“So you say the drawer front comes out too short. How much too short? Exactly an inch.

Where? Along the length

Is it a height issue or a length issue? Length

Is it possible you didn’t get the rectangle started or finished on an outside corner? I don’t think so, I had the inference dot showing and it looks just like what Scott showed in his video.

Is it possible that when you moved the copy of the side that you didn’t move it parallel to the red axis? I’m positive I had it on axis—have been watching that little red line.

Could you set up the drawing right up to just before the Push/Pull on the front and send it to me so I can see? – I’ll try to send soon.

Scott – the video is way cool. All this technology stuff you guys give back amazes me. Makes me want to learn more computer stuff – I’m not sure I’ve seen blip tv before (or at least I’ve not noticed). The Windows version worked better for me.

Thanks for your help. I’ll work some more on this later tonight and let you know my progress.

Scott – by the way, I have been struggling with that rotate tool – your video was an “ah hah” moment!

Thanks again – you guys are awesome!

-- Like a bad penny, I keep coming back!

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ChicoWoodnut

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#5 posted 2078 days ago

Thanks Dave and Betsy,

Glad to be along for the ride.

-- Scott - Chico California http://chicowoodnut.home.comcast.net

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Betsy

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#6 posted 2078 days ago

I’m absolutely not sure what I did differently this time around from the first – but here are some shots.

The first shot just shows that the front rectangle is sized onto two sides

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Next is just showing that I made the front a component.

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Next the component is push/pulled to 1/2”.

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And finally – copied and moved to the other end to close up the box.

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Now the only problem—I know I’m having lots of problems learning this—- is, even though I thought I checked my dimensions – my side is shy of 10.25” that I want. How do I resize without deleting the side and redrawing?

That’s all I can do tonight. Thanks for all your help.

-- Like a bad penny, I keep coming back!

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Brad_Nailor

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#7 posted 2078 days ago

I second everything the other Dave just said. You want to try and build your pieces in the orientation you want them in. If I was going to build a leg for instance I would make a box the size of the outer dimensions, and then extrude it up or down with the push pull tool. Same with the aprons or box sides. Then when you make them components everything will be correct axis wise. The flip along command is cool, but there are are also ruby scripts out there that will mirror objects for you (I think the next version of SU should have a mirror command). What Dave is demonstrating above is something like I was saying a few posts ago…little details that you don’t pay attention to in the beginning will come back and bite you in the butt later on !

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Betsy

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#8 posted 2078 days ago

David – you are so right about those little details coming back to bite you! All this repetition will eventually get those little details into my little head. I really appreciate all the fine help and tips I’m getting.

Dave – Your video is just the ticket (a very small Thomas the Tank Engine joke!). I was trying to size the box by copying/moving and then typing in the dimensions. You’re way is much easier. I think David mentioned the same thing but it didn’t register until I saw it in the video. I’m going to do the guide lines now. And the push/pull on the drawer front—- I pulled instead of pushed – that was a biggie right there. Doing the push instead of the pull eliminates doing the move/intersect.

The other biggie you showed was the “asterick” to put in the copies of the guide lines. That’s slick.

I’ll work on my drawer and repost it later tonight. Right now, I’ve got to rest a while though. We have a huge concert at church tonight that I want to go to, so I need to rest up. Looking forward to getting out of the house. Haven’t been to church in three weeks and so I’m really looking forward to going.

Thanks again for all the tremendous help. Hopefully, my slugging along at this is helping others learn the program as well.

One thing for sure that I’m getting the big picture on is that, just like woodworking, there are a lot of ways to do a drawing, but the devil is in the details.

-- Like a bad penny, I keep coming back!

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