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Fifth and LAST day of finger box build ---- learned some lessons

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Blog entry by Betsy posted 11-16-2007 06:19 AM 1382 reads 0 times favorited 10 comments Add to Favorites Watch

I think we left off with me gettng ready to do the bottom and the lid. The grooves were already cut and all I had to do was to cut the rabbits to fit the groove. Mr. Stowe does this on the table saw. I prefer the router table. So I set up my table with a 1/4 bit and went huntin rabbits. I follow the sneak up on em theory and use a scrape board to make sure things fit.

This is what I’ve got so far on the dry fit.
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I’ve done the inside sanding that you cannot do once the assembly is made now its time for glue up.
This is generally how I do my layout getting ready to glue
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I put glue into each finger with this small squeeze tube. It works well – but clean up is not easy. I suppose they are really meant to be disposable – but I think that’s a waste.

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Once the glue dries I sand on my little sanding boards. Just ply with paper attached by carpet tape. I have 100 and 150 on one board (opposite sides of course) and 220 and 320 on the other. Took about ten minutes top to sand the box nice and smooth.
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I forget to chamger the bottom edge so I am doing that here and will take a swipe with the sandpaper to smooth it out.
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And this is what it is like with a coat of waterlox applied.

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I do not have the pin in the top as I don’t have a brass pin or a dowel that small. So it will be pinless for now.

All in all not a bad project. Learned some stuff along the way that I hope to refine as I make the next one.

I hope you have enjoyed my journey. My apologies to Mr. Stowe – hopefully I did do a modicum and justice to the project.

-- "Our past judges our present." JFK - 1962; American Heritage Magazine



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Douglas Bordner

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#1 posted 11-16-2007 08:19 AM

It’s a good one, Betsy.
I have another two cents if you’ve a mind for advice. I usually tape off the inside surface of the fingers only, and finish the inside of the box with two or three padded on coats of shellac. Rub it out to smooth with 320 grit or better. Then I put on a layer of Renaissance Wax. Pull the tape, glue up. When the glue is 90 percent dry you can carefully knock off any dried glue off with a little homemade wooden chisel made from scrap. Then there is no trouble getting the glue out or trying to sand up to a perpendicular box side or end, and no shooting finish into a hole, or trying to pad or brush a finish down inside the box.

-- "Bordnerizing" perfectly good lumber for over a decade.

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#2 posted 11-16-2007 10:57 AM

Nicely done Betsy. I have a few of Doug Stowe’s books and he really does a good job of explaining the technique. I just learned something useful from your post, well at least in Douglas’s advice – thanks Douglas.

Betsy, I use the same little glue bottles for my box projects. I saved the little white cap that comes with the bottle and leave it filled with glue (with the white cap on) all the time. Once I need to glue up a project, I simply remove the white cap and put the needle on. After the job is done I pull the needle off and wash it out with plain water. Put the white cap back on your bottle (be sure to wipe off any glue before capping) and put it away until the next time. I have had no problem at all with the glue stored in the little bottle drying up.

-- Bill - "Suit yourself and let the rest be pleased." http://www.cajunpen.com/

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#3 posted 11-16-2007 02:46 PM

Doug – thanks for the tip. I don’t mind any advise along the way – that’s why I’m blogging. Nothing says I need help like a picture! I actually have done what you suggest on other boxes. I think I was just ready to get this little guy “done.”

One thing I’ve not done though is use a wooden chisel to clean out the excess glue. I usually use the thin edge of a small drinking straw or take the chance using a regular chisel. But Ilike your idea much better.

Cajun – my main clean up issue was how to get the glue out of the needle so it does not just dry inside it, capped or not. I was worried that it might me a one use needle if I did not get it cleaned up. I ened up putting some warm water into one of the other bottles and squeezing the water through the used needle a coule of times. Seems to work. I’m not sure how you would get glue into 1/8” fingers without these little gems.

Thanks for your help.

-- "Our past judges our present." JFK - 1962; American Heritage Magazine

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#4 posted 11-16-2007 03:19 PM

Betsy, It came out really nice. Porter-Cable makes a sand paper with self-adhesive on the back. It comes in rolls. I use it to lap planes on a surface plate. I also use it on the surface plate to sand wooden plane soles dead flat. I don’t know if it is cheaper than sand paper and double-sided tape but it would be flat all the way across.

-- Thos. Angle, Jordan Valley, Oregon

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#5 posted 11-16-2007 04:19 PM

Thanks Tom. I’ve seen those rolls on a couple of videos and have thought about checking out the price. I bet when you combine the paper and the carpet tape, that it’s probably comparable on price.

The more I look at this box, I really thought I liked the extra little lip at the top (so that the lid was not flush), it was an unintended consequence of not measuring correctly. But I’m thinking I may take it back and knock off that little lip and make it flush with the lid.

-- "Our past judges our present." JFK - 1962; American Heritage Magazine

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#6 posted 11-16-2007 06:28 PM

Oh I like that thingy!. How about carving a little demilune divot to match the pad of your thumb in the extension?

-- "Bordnerizing" perfectly good lumber for over a decade.

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#7 posted 11-16-2007 08:42 PM

WARNING, WARNING, WARNING!!!!!! An English lesson on Lumberjocks!!!! :-)

“Demuline” I had to look it up! For those others who don’t know what that means – “half-moon” amongst other things.

Doug – that’s an interesting idea. Perhaps I can incorporate that into some of the boxes that I will be making for Christmas. Yes—- I’ve decided this is an easy enough project to make multiples of for quick Christmas giving. I’ll mix and match woods and accents to make them all a little different.

-- "Our past judges our present." JFK - 1962; American Heritage Magazine

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#8 posted 11-16-2007 10:49 PM

Very nice work Betsy. And your “keep plugging ahead” attitude is terrific. Looking forward to seeing more great stuff. (An English lesson on LJ – now that IS funny!)

-- Better to say nothing and be thought the fool... then to speak and erase all doubt!

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#9 posted 11-16-2007 11:42 PM

That’s what I love so much about Lumber Jocks – you can learn all sorts of interesting woodworking techniques AND learn a new word – demuline – thank you Doug and Betsy.

Betsy I absolutely love your “can do” attitude. I think that’s onv of the thing that defines the difference between a mediocre craftsman and a master craftsman.

-- Bill - "Suit yourself and let the rest be pleased." http://www.cajunpen.com/

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#10 posted 11-17-2007 04:33 AM

Thanks guys – I appreciate the compliments and encouragement (and the English lesson Doug!). I hope to keep blogging on projects. It’s been a really learning experience for me. It’s nice having a net full of LJs looking over my shoulder!

-- "Our past judges our present." JFK - 1962; American Heritage Magazine

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