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Blog entry by Betsy posted 10-23-2007 04:00 AM 942 reads 0 times favorited 19 comments Add to Favorites Watch

I just got my newest purchase from e-bay. It’s a 5 1/4 Stanley plane. The picture was not all that accurate. I think the plane would probably end up being ok if I were a bit more mechanical.

I’m starting to convince myself that I need to stick to the new tools that I don’t have to fix (aside, of course, from lapping the sole and sharpening the cutter).

I think it could turn into a nice plane – but I’m going to have to get some help with it. It’s got a good “heft” to it – not to heavy. I’ll put it on the shelf for now and will put it on my list of winter things to work on.

Perhaps I’ll save it and bring it to the Texas LJ’s picnic. Now there’s an idea!!!

-- "Our past judges our present." JFK - 1962; American Heritage Magazine



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Thos. Angle

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#1 posted 10-23-2007 04:06 AM

Aw, Phooey, Betsy, pull up Wayne’s blog on how and tear that sucker apart. There really is nothing to it once you see how. C’mon now, don’t chicken out on us. You can do it. I know you can. The 5 1/4 is just the right size for you to get started on. You’ve got all the help in the world right here.

-- Thos. Angle, Jordan Valley, Oregon

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Betsy

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#2 posted 10-23-2007 04:52 AM

thanks Thomas—- I just get frustrated. Mechanics are not my long suit. My Dad taught me a lot, but tearing something apart (besides my own ego, of course) was not something I picked up from him.

I’ll take your advice though and pull up Wayne’s blog and print it all off at work tomorrow (don’t tell the boss).

-- "Our past judges our present." JFK - 1962; American Heritage Magazine

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WayneC

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#3 posted 10-23-2007 06:02 AM

Reach out if you have questions. They are pretty simple to get apart. Are there any broken parts?

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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Betsy

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#4 posted 10-23-2007 07:15 AM

Don’t seem to be broken pats . The cap iron and cutter are stuck together pretty good with rust. Was looking at the various ways to get that off. The sole does not look bad. The tote is in pretty good shape – could use a new finish. I think I’ll need to find a new screw for it as it won’t stay tight which leads me to believe that the business end of the screw is striped or the travel hole has become to large. I was able to tighten down the knob. The knob also need a new coat of finish.

It may not be so bad once I get into it. Perhaps I’ll even learn to like to take them apart to fix them. They are really not that hard—- right??

Good golly miss molly – its past midnight. I gotta hit the rack or I’ll be late for work.

Will check in tormorrow. Thanks for all the help.

-- "Our past judges our present." JFK - 1962; American Heritage Magazine

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#5 posted 10-23-2007 07:16 AM

They are not too hard. You will do fine.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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#6 posted 10-23-2007 02:07 PM

Here’s a basic layout that covers a lot of the planes out there.
It may help you figure what comes off and where.

-- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner

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Betsy

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#7 posted 10-23-2007 03:24 PM

Bob – that’s a better diagram than what I’ve got in my books. Thanks for sharing. I’ve decided I’m going to get a new camera so I can take pictures and work my way through on the blog fixing the plane. However, I’m going to wait until we get our holiday bonus——while not terribly expensive – they are still not cheap.

Will keep you all posted.

-- "Our past judges our present." JFK - 1962; American Heritage Magazine

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Paul

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#8 posted 10-23-2007 03:29 PM

If rust is a real issue, use repeated applications of penetrating oil (like Liquid Wrench) or similar product and patience.

-- Paul, Texas

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Betsy

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#9 posted 10-23-2007 07:14 PM

Paul I was actually thinking of trying the old baking soda, water, electric current and rebar trick. There is some pretty thick rust on this plane so I’m not sure I’m patient enough for penetrating oil.

-- "Our past judges our present." JFK - 1962; American Heritage Magazine

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WayneC

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#10 posted 10-23-2007 07:19 PM

I belive you will still want to dissassemble the plane before you de-rust it. I belive the penetrating oil is being recommended just to get the the frozen parts loose.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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Paul

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#11 posted 10-23-2007 07:20 PM

Okay, that does sound like serious rust. I haven’t tried any of those heavy duty methods. I generally use alot of penetrating oil or WD-40 and scrape it off with a dull putty knife and steel wool.

-- Paul, Texas

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WayneC

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#12 posted 10-23-2007 07:41 PM

Citric Acid and abrasive blocks are a couple of other methods. Although they remove a little metal.

http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10051&langId=-1&catalogId=10053&productId=100015613&N=10000003+90029+503553&marketID=29&locStoreNum=6649

http://lumberjocks.com/jocks/WayneC/blog/1439

I will have to try the putty knife method.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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woodchips

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#13 posted 10-23-2007 10:20 PM

Betsy,
could you send me a PM on your method of using baking soda,water, current & rebar for removing rust? i’ve never heard of such a thing but it sounds promising for a few of my future projects that may involve removing some serious rust. thanks in advance if you are able to send the info.

-- "Repetition is a leading cause of carelessness, and carelessness usually leads to injury"

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Betsy

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#14 posted 10-23-2007 10:50 PM

Isacc – will do later tonight. It’s involved. – but there are several pretty good videos on Youtube – they don’t come close to the way I learned how (let’s say the first attempt can be—ummm – hazardous if you are not careful) but I’ll be glad to share.

Wayne – will definitely dissamble first. Wouldn’t want to mess up the wooden parts.

-- "Our past judges our present." JFK - 1962; American Heritage Magazine

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bobdurnell

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#15 posted 10-23-2007 11:25 PM

Betsy, I have a Stanley 5 1/4 plane I think it is sometimes called a Junior Jack. I know they were use at the junior high where I taught for 30+. When the school was torn down and rebuilt for earthquake sake all the hand tools were given away. Some how a math teacher acquired one and eventually I got it. Your right, it has a nice heft to it. I got it in about the same condition yours was in. It should clean up fine and will be a good user plane.

-- bobdurnell, Santa Ana California.

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