Shop rehab #1: remodeling the shop!

You will never finish Charles. We all are still making changes and adapting to new tools and work flow.
Have fun on the journey. I look forward to seeing your progress from time to time. I believe you will be more productive with a more organised workshop.
Larry

-- Drink once, cut twice. New website up.... lazylarrywoodworks.com.au

It’s nice to start fresh. As much as those 2×4’s are useful for putting stuff on, I would insulate the walls and put sheetrock on, prime and paint them white and then with good lighting, you’ll really be able to see your work well. If you can, check out the sales for roller systems for stationary tools. It’s sometime cheaper to buy them than make them and your time is worth something. You could use the same time to build something to sell or…

Keep the fishing poles close to you though. When the going gets tough, the tough go fishing… ;0)

jack

-- jack -- measure once, curse twice!

Oh, yeah I forgot, get some rubber mats and save your feet.

-- jack -- measure once, curse twice!

looks great. lots of room for organization!

I noticed your unisaw’s splitter – is that a BORK? or a regular splitter?if it’s a BORK it looks really far from the blade – it’s supposed to be right behind the blade to prevent kickback.

-- When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

Its a Bork, but I am replacing it.

-- CJIII Future cabinetmaker

why are you replacing it Charles? something wrong with it ? doesn’t work well? (I’m curious for future reference)

-- When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

Nothing I just wonted something else :) It works ok! it stops kick back.

-- CJIII Future cabinetmaker

oh, cool. so this makes me more curious – why is it so far away from the blade? I thought it was supposed to be positioned right behind the blade at all times ?

-- When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

Go Get’em Charles.
It’ll be a great work area when you are done. But, Larry is right, you’ll never be done.
And, I’m with Jack. There is always room for my fishing poles!

-- Eric

Looks like you have a lot of work ahead, but it will be fun. Enjoy your remodel.

-- Mike the CreekWoodworker

moving heavy stuff around is a pain but I was really surprised when I had set up my new shop when we moved and 2 months later im moving stuff around again

-- kosta brownsville brooklyn my home

I never really could the bork to work right, thats why I was looking at replaceing it.

-- CJIII Future cabinetmaker

LOts of work ahead of you but you’ll love it in the long run.

-- Jerry--A man can never have enough tools or clamps

good start there’s a way to go still.

-- Jim from Heirloom Woodshop Southern Oregon

great job—-i know…i am in the middle of my makeover and long way to go…

good luck…

-- Matt, Napa, CA...fun is beautiful...just trying to have some fun...

Don’t feel bad, Im just now starting on my first shop. Then I can’t wait to rebuild it.

-- ericandcandi, Louisiana- Home of the "LSU Tigers"

I’m guessing your shop is small-ish. I just bought some Delta mobile bases from Rockler – they were like 1/2 off! You may be able to save space by becoming mobile. I agree with Jack1 regarding finishing it out – insulate, but I would put up OSB instead of sheetrock and paint it. That’s what I did and I can hang anything anywhere. I also agree that you can’t get enough light. In my 24×30, I put (6) 8’ T12 High outputs plus the two different lights above my bench. I just painted the OSB with white KILZ and it is bright. Have fun – nothing like an organized shop!

-- "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." A. Einstein

Ok, osb is a good choice floyd. I do have to use a lot of wall anchors…

-- jack -- measure once, curse twice!

Yes its a 10×12 shed, 120 sq ft floyd.

-- CJIII Future cabinetmaker

I envy you having a separate shop, CJ!! Can’t wait to see the finished pictures.

Lew

Charles,

another thing I thought about was your lumber rack, you mentioned that you want to put up a Triton lumber rack. another option is to use the Rubbermaid shelving system like the one I use here for my medium lumber. the benefits of the Rubbermaid system is that it’s more readily available, can be more versatile, and the specs for weight are 350lbs (over 3 brackets) as opposed to 110lbs (for 2 brackets) for the Triton. but the Triton have nicer colors ;)

-- When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

Thanks for the info Lev on the lumber racks I will be getting me some. Charlie I’ve been working on my garage all summer the more I clean the more my wife talks about parking the car in there in the winter. I don’t know? Good Luck buddy.

-- Mike. mwurm13@yahoo.com

I would say…. AC, heat, natural light, lots of lights, and good luck.

-- Terry Roswell, L.A. (Lower Alabama) "Life is what happens to you when you are making other plans."

Purp,
I know you aren’t dissing my triton rack. at least you figured out why I bought it. Hokie colors! I’m a ridgid fan for life now.

Hokie – most definitely not dissing anything, I was actually eyeing that rack myself, but for lack of funds, and since I already had the rubbermaid bars and brackets sitting around – ended up that route, then someone asked me how much it can hold – so I did some research, and since I was curious – I also checked on the Triton specs – thats when I found the numbers. the Triton def. looks much better, and is designed to be low profile, which is why the 110lbs is WAAAAY more than enough for it…

-- When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

I was just kidding Purp. I’m actually a bit jealous of your system although here are a couple more considerations. I hope I’m not highlacking your thread CJ.

The triton probably costs less. You’d get 6 shelves at about 100 lbs each allowing you to store 650 lbs total. Rockler has it for $80, but I’m pretty sure that woodcraft regularly puts it at 65. throw in another $15 off coupon which we all probably get pretty regularly, and you might be able to snag this deal for 50. It is quick to assemble and having only two supports makes it impossible to have them out of line.

The rubbermaid storage is both similar and very different. The vertical supports look to be about $5 each for a 24 inch strip. To build a rack that would have a similar footprint (is it still a foot print if it takes up wall space?) you would need 6 pieces so that is $30. each shelf support is $5 so to hold the same weight as the triton, you’d need 3 supports so that is $15. That seems good, but to be able to practically access your lumber, you would probably want more than to pile everything on one shelf. 6 shelves like the triton would cost $90 so now the triton is cheaper, but you wouldn’t realistically need 6 shelves (3 seems like it would be enough if you were organized).

All in all, I haven’t seen the rubbermaid system, but it seems superior in most ways. you can buy however many shelves you want, and you can adjust the height. Also, if you have limited wall space, you can buy the vertical supports in 2 ft increments. You also get more support in the middle and ends of long boards if you so desire.

If I were to do it again, I’d probably go with the rubbermaid system, but it does stick out a bit far from the wall which could be a problem for parking the cars or if you need to hang it low (which cuts into floor space even if it is on the wall). just some thoughts. I hope this helps you if you decide to purchase a rack.

Purp, my estimates were based on what I could find on homedepot.com. let me know if you think my pricing is off though.

you got it about right Hokie, I think it’s good to discuss this here, maybe other’s can benefit from this. when I said “lack of funds” I meant – cannot spend anythings currently – but yeah, the rubbermaid will not cost less if bought at the store compared to the triton. although I think it’s a bit more versatile.

it definitely needs a bit more work to install as you need to align 3+ bars to support the shelves/weight, but aren’t we used to 1/64” precision by now? (I know… it’s a pain to align those sometimes)

the shelf brackets come in many different lengths, from 6” to a whopping 24” – I currently use the 24” to make the most of it, but could easily replace it with shorter brackets if needs be, which will make it the same footprint as the triton. the point is – there are more possibilities here. you can use those bars for lumber storage, mixed with a work surface, mixed with some other shelving units…etc..etc… (this is how my old computer station was setup as)

with that said – the triton is a plugin and play sort of thing – requires less work to setup, and less ‘possibilities’ to worry about – take it out of the box, mount it , and you’re done with it.

both are good. and both should be considered as options – depending on what’s available around, and needs.

-- When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

Thats ok!

-- CJIII Future cabinetmaker

Looking good. Looks like your having to much fun.

-- Dennis Zongker

Love it! Have you considered stacking your benchtop power tools when not in use to save space?

I have mine on the wall using a pair of rubbermaid shelf rails and then brackets up the wall mounted to 24” x 18” mount boards. The bolt heads sit in counterbores on the bottom of the mount boards. I pull down a tool at a time, clamp the mount board to the workbench, and do what I need to do…

Hope you don’t think I’m butting in here. I love what you are doing here, and will be swiping some of your ideas I think… Just thought you might be interested in this to save floor space.

-- Trying to follow the example of the master.

I have not thought about that.

-- CJIII Future cabinetmaker

I use my bench and 2 book shelves screwed to a tool box as my out feed tables. The biggest problem that i have is that I pile a lot of crap on my bench and the shelves and when I want to make a quick cut on my tablesaw I have to clear all of it off. somethimes it takes 5 minutes to clear everything off.

-- kosta brownsville brooklyn my home

Use shelves attached to your saw, bench etc. with hinges and a single leg support. When you want to clear the surface, kick out the support, everything falls to the floor the you can put the support back and you’re ready to go!
Simple no?

;0)

-- jack -- measure once, curse twice!

I never thought about that the only problem is then the crap on the floor could get damaged but I will try something like that

-- kosta brownsville brooklyn my home

Keep some old whiskey boxes stuffed with all them shipping peanuts you don’t know what to do with underneath the shelves. If you keep a bottle or two of the whiskey in each box, it makes looking for your other less of a chore and a good consolation in the even that something got broken. You should have a power shut off device attached to each whiskey bottle to prevent accidents.
Now, why didn’t OSHA think of that?!

-- jack -- measure once, curse twice!