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"Art Box" Tutorial #7: Put a lid on it.

Blog entry by Andy posted 145 days ago 1334 reads 13 times favorited 15 comments Add to Favorites Watch
« Part 6: Whats your style? Part 7 of "Art Box" Tutorial series Part 8: It all hinges on this. »

Three lid choices.

DO NOT CUT THE LID TO SIZE UNTIL YOU ARE SURE OF THE STYLE OF BOX YOU WANT TO MAKE!

At the start of this tutorial I mentioned that we would look at three ways to make this box.

We are at a point in the project,where we need to decide how we want our lid to open.You will need to look at each type and decide which is your favorite or the easiest for you to make.

I suggest following on with this tutorial and weighing the pros and cons of construction,before making a final decision.

Alternate lid #1.

This style features a Full Recess with a lift off lid, as shown on the “Designer Boxes”
This is the easiest to do.Just cut the full recess and fit the lid as discussed in Chapter 5.
Then leap frog through the tutorial until we start discussing the shaping.

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The inlays are very simple to do, so I wont spend much time talking about it.

I make shallow kerfs,about 1/4’’ deep,using one or two passes on the table saw to determine the width, and then insert strips of contrasting woods,sized accordingly .I will often draw them out with markers,right on the top, to help get the right feel.Just leave the strips proud and grind them off when you do the shaping.

I know you have heard me say this when we were doing the corner splines,but this is very important and worth repeating.
Just be sure your inlay strips fit snug all the way to the bottom and tight against the sides.When you grind into them in the shaping phase you will expose any gaps.Putty will just show up later as the wood around it ages.

Alternate lid #2

This style is a Partial Recess and features “Soss” barrel hinges.This is the type of lid I used on the “Bad Moon Rising/Secret Box”.

Soss-installed

We start by routing out a full recess for the lid.Then we carefully cut away the lip at the back so the lid can extend to the back.This will allow the use of barrel hinges or concealed butt hinges.I like this style because we still get the lip on the front and sides for that molded look,but is a little easier to do than the full recess, which we will discuss later.

After routing for the full recess we need to cut away the back lip.I use a Japanese saw to cut a kerf,just shy of the side and just off the bottom of the lip.Be carefull not to scratch up the inside

End-cut

Then using a bottom cutting router bit,set the height just shy of the bottom of the lip and carefully pare away the lip,stopping short of the kerfs you made at each end.The kerfs will ensure that the router doesnt tear out a chunk at the ends.

(If you should accidently go a little too deep,dont fret.Just reset your pattern bit and run another fast pass around the inside.)

I am using a spiral bit for this cut,but you can use the same pattern bit setup that you just cut the recess with.

Back-cut-1

I am very cautious,and dont get too close,I shave away the rest with a sharp chisel.

Back-cut-done

Last thing to do is very carefully even up the sides and bottom using a sanding block.

End-cut-sand

Now you can cut your lid to size and make a jig for doing the medallion.After that you can install your hinges.

Another way to do this is to make a template that sets on top of the box and using a guide bushing and a straight spiral bit,you can cut the rabbit on three sides and exit out the back,removing all the waste.Its a better way to do this but I dont do the Soss style often.

Alternate lid #3
This style is the Full Recess with pin hinges.This is the type of lid featured on Rachels box and a few others.
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Boring background info:

I spent a lot of time developing a way to let the lid swing down into the box,yet still maintain a fairly tight reveal on all 4 sides.Its not too difficult to achieve a similar look if you dont route the lip.Simply make a square box and a lid that sets down into the box,and bore through the side for hinge pins.Then install a liner or a stop ,which will give the lid something to rest on.I like this style but I was after a way to give my boxes a more organic feel,more natural in their lines,curvy.
The difficulty is the lip itself.It doesnt allow the back of the lid to drop into the box,so thats where we need to cut it away a little deeper at the back.I call these pockets.
The other difficulty is in getting the hinge placement spot on or it wont open at all or not far enough to stay open.

Here is how its done: We make our box and route the recess for the lip on all four side just as with the lift off style.Use the same pattern bit and bearing setup that you just finished with for the lip.What we are going to do is crank the bearing up in several passes to cut deep pockets just at the back for the lid to drop down into.

Pocket-complete

Set a fence 1 1/18’’ to 1 3/4’’ from the center of the bit.(The smaller diameter looks a little nicer when you open the box,but the larger pocket is easier to work with.I recommend the larger pocket on your first box)You will need to experiment with this depending on your bit and bearing setup.

This is what I am using.
I have a 1 1/2’’ wide bit with a 3/4’’ bearing, making a 3/8’’ rabbet.We need a pocket that is a max of 2’’ wide.I am NOT talking diameter. We are not cutting half of a circle,but just an arc, as you can see in the following photo.(Remember, we are riding on the shoulder of the bearing.)

Pocket-width

How to make the cut:

With the router turned off,raise the cutter up about 3/4’’ above the table.Turn your box upside down and center it over the bit.Slide the box back until it contacts the fence.Make sure the bit is NOT in contact with the box and turn it on.Slowly and firmly slide it to the left,and after it cuts into the wood,pull the box straight forward until the bearing stops the cut,then move the box to the right until it stops cutting,then move it back until the fence stops the cutting.Do this at a moderate pace.Too fast will risk chipping and too slow will cause burns.Its best to move like a robot,but dont stress about keeping the box aligned forward and backwards,the bearing is indexing the cut and the fence will stop the width of the pocket cut even if the box is a little skewed.And as long as you have a firm grip,there really is no worry about the box being grabbed by the router.Its a little unerving at first because you cant see whats going on.Thats why I recommend a test box…you will be more relaxed :-)

Pocket-meas

Next we will cut the pockets to a depth of 1 1/4’’ which will be the total depth of cut across the back.I do this in three passes,again stopping to clean out any chips between passes.
To clarify: We will end up with a rabbit on the front and down both sides which will be 1/2’’ deep,and a rabbit across the bach which is 3/4’’ deeper,for a total depth of 1 1/4’’.At each end of this deeper rabbit will be two arcs,or half round pockets to allow the lid to drop into and pivot.
It is really much easier to do than it sounds!!!!!

WARNING”

Make sure the shaft is inserted in the collet to a safe depth recommended by the bit manufacturer and the maker of your router.**

Personally,I feel comfortable exposing about 1/2 ’’of shaft which leaves about 3/4’’ plus in the collet.Its the only way to attain a cut that deep with my setup.I turn the speed down a little too,because of the mass of metal we are using here.Just be comfortable with whatever you decide and be safe.

Pocket-bit-setup

Final depth.
Pocket-depth

Next time we will discuss the hinge pins and shaping the underside of the lid so it will drop into the pockets.

-- " If I can make it,so can you" Andy in Oregon


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posted 145 days ago

Andy, good tutorial. Great looking boxes. Nice selection of wood. Kudos.

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majeagle1

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posted 145 days ago

I’ve been following along and this is wonderful Andy…........... you are doing a great job and providing great instructions and tips. Keep it up and thanks again.

-- Gene, Majestic Eagle Woodworks, http://majesticeagleww.etsy.com/, http://www.flickr.com/photos/majesticeagle/

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Kindlingmaker

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posted 145 days ago

Super! Super good job! Ok when are you going to start your video series on PBS? ; ) Really, I do thank you for this blog, it’s great!

-- Never board, always knotty, lots of growth rings

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Andy

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posted 145 days ago

Boy…...thank you all for the support:-)
I know I am probably giving way too many details for most of you,so I thank you for your patience.
My goal is to encourage everyone regardless of ability, to try their hand at this project.

Hopefully,my thoroughness will prevent you from making many of the same mistakes I have made.
And I am looking forward to seeing what you will come up with.I hope to learn better ways to make these boxes,to learn from your experience.

Dont hesitate to let me know of any errors in my write up,or questions you need answered.
Please do that right here in the comments section.That will minimize duplication of the same concerns,and also,everyone can read the answer.

-- " If I can make it,so can you" Andy in Oregon

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PKP

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posted 144 days ago

great tutorial! Thanks for takeing the time to write it. Well Done! Hope you will do more tutorials you are very good at explianing your work and with pics it really helps to see what your talking about.

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posted 144 days ago

Andy, this is an excellent tutorial series. You have explained it well and documented the process thoroughly. You certainly have made it clear for me.

-- With God's help all things are possible- even woodworking. Woodworking is not just a hobby, it is an (expletive deleted) expensive hobby.

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Douglas Bordner

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posted 144 days ago

I’ve been following along with a deep appreciation of your dedication to sharing this with us. It’s a lot of work and a labor of love indeed. Thanks – I’ll remain a loyal reader!

-- "Bordnerizing" perfectly good lumber for over a decade.

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posted 142 days ago

I just found this tutorial and picked out a piece of mahogany and a piece of poplar to start with! I’ve made a lot of boxes from books and magizines but this is one of the most interesting boxes I’ve seen.

Thanks!

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posted 142 days ago

Hey Andy
This is spectaular totorial well done.

-- Jim from Heirloom Woodshop Southern Oregon

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posted 142 days ago

Andy, this is good stuff. I wish I were in a position to build as you teach, but scheduling is not allowing that. We won’t mention that my skills might also get in the way. But I’ve marked each entry for future reference and will be putting this information to work as soon as I can. Thanks for all the detail.

-- When you give someone a chance it may well be their last.

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Lee

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posted 141 days ago

Andy…I just finished printing off your tutorials. I think you have good presentation skills. Love your work and thanks for sharing your expertise. I don’t know who said it, but, “a candle looses nothing if it lights another candle” Hope you’ll do more.

Lee

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Andy

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posted 140 days ago

I am glad that this series is making sense.I dont have any formal training,so I am trying to write this in the way I would want to read it.
Thanks to all of you for reading this series and taking time to make positive comments.
I am working on the next chapter,but it will be a few days before I will have it ready to post.

-- " If I can make it,so can you" Andy in Oregon

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posted 136 days ago

The link will take you to the helpful hints page.
http://lumberjocks.com/Argyllshire/blog/9943#comments

-- " If I can make it,so can you" Andy in Oregon

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posted 130 days ago

Great job and keep the tutorials coming.
I need to complete my box.
Thanks for sharing

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Andy

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posted 130 days ago

Here is the next chapter.
http://lumberjocks.com/Argyllshire/blog/10058

-- " If I can make it,so can you" Andy in Oregon

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